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  1. LET73

    Spy vs Ready Room (1 v Many)

    Does it, though? It definitely can, but that really depends on the Intel O. There's really no forcing function in intel training or anywhere else to get new 1830s to learn blue force operations, which means that they've got to be proactive about it. Some are, others not so much. I agree...
  2. LET73

    Chow hall

    Eating ribs with a spoon made us all into the leaders we are today.
  3. LET73

    OCS Stuck at OTCN, disqualified from aviation and forced to go SWO or to DOR

    First, sorry to hear you're losing what you really wanted. It's a gut punch, and now you have to make a decision on short notice on top of that. That said, think honestly about how you're going to approach this. It's fine and understandable to be disappointed, but if you're going to be bitter...
  4. LET73

    “Information Warfare Is a Second-Class Commissioning Community”

    So, an Academy grad thinks that the only way for IWC to be taken seriously/be a real warfare community is to increase the number of Academy grads in the IWC? If anything, IWC should be treated more like PAO - i.e., new accessions into the community should have some kind of operational...
  5. LET73

    Questions about Navy OCS from a college student.

    We had group showers when I went through (2007; not sure if that's still a thing), and the candi-os used to stand outside the door and make us sing in the shower - usually the Marine hymn.
  6. LET73

    A Word on OCS (as of 2 DEC 16)

    That was 2007, so I wouldn't be surprised if the numbers are looking pretty different now. I think we had a lot of people roll during the in-PRT, then there were injuries and swim failures and various other issues up through RLP. But other than the DORs and the one person who just couldn't...
  7. LET73

    A Word on OCS (as of 2 DEC 16)

    "Graduating on time" and "graduating" are (or can be) remarkably different stats. In general, if you want to complete OCS, you will. My class started with about 75 people, of whom about 25 commissioned on the expected date. There were a small handful of DORs, and only one person I know of who...
  8. LET73

    Which Specialty should I be pushing for? Navy Reserve Officer

    Powerpoint is a thing we use to convey information. Sometimes the people you work for get really hung up on it and get upset if you use the wrong shade of blue (this is not a problem unique to intel), but if your information and your analysis/assessments suck, no one cares if you know all the...
  9. LET73

    INTEL and Aviation Observers

    That, and the fact that the first round of people who got it (myself included), got a warfare pin by taking an NKO course.
  10. LET73

    INTEL and Aviation Observers

    Yep. I think a big part of the problem is that the intel pin involves learning a lot of information, but not actually demonstrating any proficiency. Part of that's a function of the different jobs a qualifying intel O might end up in - there's not a set career progression for intel the way...
  11. LET73

    Why are so few professionally recommended to OCS? IWC.

    Yes, ship life does bear down on people. And SWOs get a lot of ship life. (Also, constant work trips can wear you down, too, even when they're to cool European destinations.) Intel offers, generally speaking, get more shore duty, which equals a better quality of life. People are probably...
  12. LET73

    Intel Competitiveness

    "Crypto Linguist" isn't a thing as an officer. There are cryptologic warfare officers (designator 1810) , but they aren't using foreign language skills, and your background doesn't suggest you'd get picked up for that. There is the enlisted rate of CTI (Cryptologic Technician, Interpretive)...
  13. LET73

    20MAY2018 OCS class

    I'm definitely not in this class, but this thread caught my eye, since it's 11 years to the day from when I reported to OCS. Good luck to all of you!
  14. LET73

    What NRC considers competitive

    In nine years as an intel officer, the Navy has never asked me to do anything technically complex... which is fortunate for everyone, since I'm another of those dime a dozen non-STEM types. It's a different story for the cryppies and IP officers, but intel isn't necessarily a technical field...
  15. LET73

    OCS December 2016 IWC Board

    I haven't seen the stats from the latest board, but stats from previous boards would suggest that intel has been the exception to that. While the IWC as a whole wants STEM degrees, intel in particular generally doesn't, and a poli sci degree isn't going to hurt an applicant who wants to be an...
  16. LET73

    NEWS Fuck You United Airlines

    What the airlines need to do is actually enforce the size limits for carry-on bags. They could take a page from Ryanair's book and have an employee check the size of passengers' bags while they're waiting in line to board... then charge double to check an oversized carry-on at the gate. I'm...
  17. LET73

    NEWS Navy to end ending all enlisted ratings!

    From the message: There will no longer be a distinction between "Airman, Fireman, and Seaman." They will all be "Seamen."
  18. LET73

    NEWS Navy to end ending all enlisted ratings!

    I think there are some good points in there, but also some missed ones. If the schools and training are broken (and they are) fix the schools and training pipeline. Just because the Marines and the Army do fine with MOSs and job titles, but not rates (and they do) doesn't mean the Navy has to...
  19. LET73

    NEWS Navy to end ending all enlisted ratings!

    I still don't know why ratings needed to go away to achieve any of the goals here. Why does telling my Sailors that they're now B600s instead of Intelligence Specialists help them out with civilian employment? Why not just allow people to earn NECs outside their rate if the goal is to let them...
  20. LET73

    NEWS Navy to end ending all enlisted ratings!

    Yeah, I agree that they screwed it up. I'm on a ship now, and I spent this afternoon talking to Sailors in all different rates, who all feel like something they earned has been taken away from them, and I couldn't explain why. I don't know, and from the information I have, I don't agree. That...
  21. LET73

    NEWS Navy to end ending all enlisted ratings!

    I'm honestly interested in the reasons behind it, and the problems it will solve or mitigate. I'm sure there are reasons beyond trying to be like the other services and destroying tradition, but I don't think that my Sailors and CPOs are necessarily seeing why a rating that they worked hard to...
  22. LET73

    What makes Navy Intel so highly regarded?

    I can only assume that it's our smarts, charisma, and stunning good looks.
  23. LET73

    ASTB Cancelled - CAC Card

    Yeah, they'll try to tell you that the NMC in NMCI stands for Navy/Marine Corps, but really NMCI stands for non-mission-capable internet.
  24. LET73

    Detailer Contact Question

    What @RUFiO181 said. Also, you won't be dealing directly with the detailer at NIOBC; you'll be going through the instructors. Once you get there, just let your instructors know that you'll be collocating.
  25. LET73

    NROTC vs Academy predicament

    You've got two great options, and you'll need to see the AFA before you can really make a choice about where you want to spend the next four years. That said, it's only four years. It seems like a huge decision now - service academy vs. ROTC - but at the end of that time, you'll have the...
  26. LET73

    NIOBC and such

    Personal insight has been provided at great length in the pinned thread https://www.airwarriors.com/community/index.php?threads/new-intel-o-1-carrier-ships-company-vs-squadron.13178/ I'm not being facetious. You're posting on this thread about a question that has its own thread, to which...
  27. LET73

    NIOBC and such

    It's more that you're revealing that you haven't looked around the Intel Officer forum. Squadron AI vs. CVN ship's company is covered extensively.
  28. LET73

    1835 Opportunities Aboard a Ship

    Yeah, we had a targeteer who was a reservist when I was on the CVN, but he was a senior LT (who I think had been selected for LCDR). Also, that was in 2008/2009, and if anything there are probably fewer opportunities now. There just aren't that many shipboard billets for 1830s, let alone...
  29. LET73

    sTUPID qUESTIONS aBOUT ocs

    I'm not who you asked, but at four days in? No. You're nuking it. If you got picked up for OCS and can pass a PFA, I promise you, you'll be fine on Day Four.
  30. LET73

    Iran Detains 10 U.S. Navy Personnel

    Politics all around. The detention could well have been the result of someone taking some initiative, but once something like that happens, there's going to be higher level involvement. Of course, we're all just speculating here.
  31. LET73

    Iran Detains 10 U.S. Navy Personnel

    Maybe so. But I don't think they're totally incapable of that kind of messaging, even if their C2 does suck.
  32. LET73

    Iran Detains 10 U.S. Navy Personnel

    No, timing of Iran detaining US Navy personnel just ahead of the State of the Union address, or two weeks ahead of the Iowa caucuses (i.e., round one of the presidential election), or just following a flashpoint in tensions between Iran and Saudi Arabia. I don't think this happened in a vacuum...
  33. LET73

    Iran Detains 10 U.S. Navy Personnel

    Rick Santorum hasn't dropped out yet? Huh. Interesting timing by the Iranians, though.
  34. LET73

    USN RIP CDR Hugh "BZB" Magee

    That's sad news. He set a real example for a lot of people just here on AW; I can only imagine what he did for the people who knew him in person. Fair winds and following seas, BzB.
  35. LET73

    sTUPID qUESTIONS aBOUT ocs

    This discussion (on buying new/duplicate items for RLP) comes up every so often, and it always makes me grateful that our DI told us in no uncertain terms that we were not to buy anything new for the inspection. They found plenty of things to hit us on, but as far as I know, no one got hit for...
  36. LET73

    OCS DLPT Scores for Intel and IW

    It's absolutely valuable to get them thinking about it. Junior Ensigns won't necessarily have the context to fit information into the big picture, but they need to know that there is a big picture. I think it's really easy for them to get lost in the weeds--and in a way, being down in the...
  37. LET73

    OCS DLPT Scores for Intel and IW

    Yeah, the emphasis shifted to STEM right along with the creation of the IDC, so probably about six years ago. I commissioned in '07, and that was definitely before they were looking for STEM degrees as much as they are now. I don't remember it being mentioned at all when I was talking to the...
  38. LET73

    OCS DLPT Scores for Intel and IW

    Yep. As HH-60H points out, there can be overlap, but I've never personally worked with CTIs (though I have worked with other CTs). In the future there will probably be more overlap, as the lines between intel, IW, and IP blur into the Information Dominance glob--I mean, Corps (hence the focus...
  39. LET73

    OCS DLPT Scores for Intel and IW

    The reason they aren't all that interested in your DLPT scores is that very, very few intel billets require language proficiency, and basically none of those are jobs you'd get early in your career. If the timing works out you can get an attache job, or you can apply to be an FAO, but intel...
  40. LET73

    Student Loans and OCS?

    I set up my loan payments as an automatic bill through my online banking site. No family member participation required.
  41. LET73

    NOR Intent

    You screen yourself out by not submitting a package. Your recruiter will hold your hand more or less based on what the Navy needs and what your qualifications are, but if you want to be an officer, do your research, study for the ASTB, and put in your package. If you meet the qualifications...
  42. LET73

    Norfolk vs. San Diego

    I grew up on the east coast, and my family is on the east coast, and I like seasons. Because of all that, I'd take Norfolk/Hampton Roads area over San Diego any day. I'm sure I make my detailer very happy when I'm negotiating orders.
  43. LET73

    OCS Sept '15 IDC Board

    And so many hopes and dreams are dashed when people find out what Intel actually does.
  44. LET73

    OCS Sept '15 IDC Board

    You do realize that most of Intel isn't nearly that sexy, right?
  45. LET73

    Career Progression for O-3 Lat Transfer to Intel

    It depends. I've seen lat transfers go to sea duty and shore duty (targeteer, squadron AI, COCOM/JIOC). Generally they try to get you a sea duty billet to help you get caught up on the milestones required for intel career progression, but to make O-4 you pretty much need sea duty and a...
  46. LET73

    sTUPID qUESTIONS aBOUT ocs

    Not in the slightest. You'll be fine.
  47. LET73

    sTUPID qUESTIONS aBOUT ocs

    I think you're getting a little ahead of yourself, but pretty much everyone who goes from an aviation billet to shore duty keeps wearing the brown shoes (they do look better).
  48. LET73

    sTUPID qUESTIONS aBOUT ocs

    Brown shoes are for aviators, or anyone working with aviators (including intel). If you get orders to an aviation intel billet after NIOBC, you'll wear brown shoes with your khakis when you get to your squadron. Black shoes are the default before then.
  49. LET73

    sTUPID qUESTIONS aBOUT ocs

    I think it's just as well the DIs aren't inspecting underwear anymore (it was definitely an RLP item when I went through). It's probably been long enough now that I can admit to sneaking in some naps here and there during Candio phase. The key is not getting caught.
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