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Stand by for high seas, heavy rolls in NSW and JAGC
- Thread starter nittany03
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His rank is Chief Petty Officer so his proper title is Chief. Kind of like that LTC testifying and the objections to calling him Mister.
Whether the Chief’s mess wants to recognize him as a “Chief” is for them to decide, not you.
As one of the platoon's leaders he was and should be held to a higher standard, and given the charges he was facing his pre-trial confinement did not seem out of the norm.
I think the opposite is true, where the E-7 has been not only vocal but has courted publicity and attention to himself to the point of insubordination and contempt while his superiors have been constrained from making public comment by the law. He is entitled to defending himself but I think he has stepped far over the line with what he has done.
For as long as photos and videos have been made it has usually been fraught with controversy in western countries to show the dead in more graphic detail, it held true in the Crimean War and still holds true today. Even photos that just show dead bodies has been controversial, with the photos of dead soldiers at Buna Beach, New Guinea going up to FDR who cleared their release in Life magazine.
To use corpses as trophies is even a step further, much more personal and prohibited in the DoD. It is different than showing the impact of a weapon that causes death, as it is much more personal and graphic and yes, still a significant cultural difference to this day.
Footage of strikes isn’t like posing with corpses at all. There’s been a lot of combat footage released over the years by ground guys as well. That’s also not the same as posing with corpses.
Agree to disagree.
Just let the dude retire... It's time for this story to die off. Is the guy still gonna walk around in retirement with tridents and other hooyah on? Yes. Is he going to (credibly) tell people he was a SEAL? Yes. Are his SEAL buddies still going to hang out and drink beer with him? Maybe, maybe not, but taking away his trident a couple days before he retires probably isn't going to change that.
It's pretty obvious that the Commander In Chief wants the Navy to allow "Chief Gallagher- SEAL" to retire. NSW has a lot of places they should be spending their time and effort, like changing a culture of coked up, drunk SEALs on the battlefield. Or investigating how common taking pictures with dead enemy fighters really is, when at least a dozen other SEALS in the picture in question thought nothing about posing for it. Gearing up to piss your boss off just to stick your finger in the eye of a guy that is days from leaving is just dumb. What the Admiral thought was a Mountain turned out to be a molehill and he's about to die on it.
It's pretty obvious that the Commander In Chief wants the Navy to allow "Chief Gallagher- SEAL" to retire. NSW has a lot of places they should be spending their time and effort, like changing a culture of coked up, drunk SEALs on the battlefield. Or investigating how common taking pictures with dead enemy fighters really is, when at least a dozen other SEALS in the picture in question thought nothing about posing for it. Gearing up to piss your boss off just to stick your finger in the eye of a guy that is days from leaving is just dumb. What the Admiral thought was a Mountain turned out to be a molehill and he's about to die on it.
Gallagher is a hero to the fanboys and wannabes, POTUS included.
I don't understand what this buys Trump at all. He's going against his senior military advisors in making this decision right? So what does it do other than show that he and our flag officers don't agree.
Something I learned early on in my time supporting SOCOM, all the SF guys are just dudes like you and me. Sure, they know how to work their asses off and are super high speed, but working day to day with them, meh.
If I had my druthers of who to work with, in order, MARSOC, SF, then SEALs. They are all capable but MARSOC has been the most well organized of the bunch.
exNavyOffRec
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This all just needs to go away, if they take his trident so what, he is retiring anyway, he can still say he was a SEAL and if they take his trident it will add more to the book he will probably write.
If they don't want pics of SEALs with bodies being taken then make sure they all acknowledge it is not allowed, then hold them accountable, not 1 or 2, but all.
I am surprised the “senior military advisors” even tried to take his pin. It was obviously against the intent of POTUS, which was to basically leave him alone and let him retire.
At this point, I expect Gallagher to go write his book and get paid. And I couldn’t blame him, based on how everything has gone down.
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Populist appeal. This is the bread and butter of his platform and you don't have to look much further than this thread to find how it isn't ineffective.