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1,001 questions about the ASTB (post your scores & ask your questions here!)

MiracleWhip

New Member
Take no prisoners!
Yessir, everything seems to be easy enough. Just tripping a little over the mechanical and degrees of bank that is said to appear on the ASTB!

Math - Decent
Reading - Good
Spatial - Good
ANIT- Just memorization
Mechanical - Iffy. The Marine Gouge seems way easy. But I am studying up on formulas just to be safe.
 

ea6bflyr

Working Class Bum
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Do your best and see how you fair on the test. You have 3 opportunities. If you don't hit the mark on your first go around, adjust fires, and re-attack! Good luck.
 

Navy Ship

Member
The bottom of the wing does not provide lift, but is the other variable in lift.

Thanks for replying ea6bflyr. I am confused about exactly what the video shows. The stall in the video occurs around 0:13.

The airflow on the upper section of the wing does get turbulent. But the airflow on the bottom of the wing is still flowing and is being deflected downward. Shouldn't this downward deflection still enable the wing to produce lift? The way I understand it, bernoulli's principle is broken but newton's 3rd law is still producing lift.

But obviously I am mistaken somewhere. Does the turbulence at the top of the airplane produce a downward force on the wing?
 
So I took the ASTB today and got a 6/6/6 51 . I'm a bit disappointed because I studied and didn't get fantastic results, but the recruiters at my office say that they are solid scores, even if they aren't amazing ha ha. I'm applying for an NFO position, I hear everyone needs them nowadays, so I thought I might fit in somewhere. I recommend anyone studying for the test to study MATH extensively. I'm have an engineering degree, but struggled on the math portion. It's the time that will get you on problems you probably haven't seen since freshmen year of high school. I also recommend just seriously sitting down and watching the military or history channel for an hour to absorb random information on military history they may ask you and learn the prominent planes they had in certain years.
 

BusyBee604

St. Francis/Hugh Hefner Combo!
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But obviously I am mistaken somewhere. Does the turbulence at the top of the WING produce a downward force on the wing?
Turbulence on the top of the wing degrades/destroys lift; our relentless enemy Mr. Gravity, provides the downward force.
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ea6bflyr

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Thanks for replying ea6bflyr. I am confused about exactly what the video shows. The stall in the video occurs around 0:13.

The airflow on the upper section of the wing does get turbulent. But the airflow on the bottom of the wing is still flowing and is being deflected downward. Shouldn't this downward deflection still enable the wing to produce lift? The way I understand it, bernoulli's principle is broken but newton's 3rd law is still producing lift.

But obviously I am mistaken somewhere. Does the turbulence at the top of the airplane produce a downward force on the wing?
Let me see if I can clear this up. The air moving over the top of the wing creates a LOW pressure area (lower than the bottom wing airflow). The air passing under the bottom of the wing is flowing much slower and can be considered a HIGH pressure area. The LOW pressure area SUCKS the wing toward the low pressure area (lift). When the LOW pressure subsides, there is no LIFT from the wing. At this point the residule lift (very very very small lift) is overcome by aircraft weight & gravity (refer to the 4 basic elements required to produce lift).
 

courtliz

New Member
Omg ASTB!

Took it this morning and got 5/5/5 50. The bare minimum scores to apply for NFO and good scores for SWO. (Form 4)

Math: wasn't terrible. Pretty similar to the study guides. Got stuck on a few.

Reading: pretty simple. Just what you can infer from the passage.

Mechanical: OMG. This was the hardest section I have ever seen! This was nothing like the practice tests. There were so many things I didn't know in this section. I can't even remember what types of questions because they just seemed crazy!

Spatial: pretty easy. Some were difficult, but for the most part I found them pretty easy.

Aviation/nautical: not too bad. I had practiced so hard for this section and there were a few questions that I had no clue what to put. I had the g-force in a loop question, quite a few on wakes and turbulence that I had no idea about, yeah.

Supplemental: was all aviation and nautical again. Again, not bad, but some random things I never looked at before.

I may retake eventually, but I really want to turn my kit in and see what happens. I just want to get in! Glad the first time was okay though... blah.
 

Navy Ship

Member
Turbulence on the top of the wing degrades/destroys lift; our relentless enemy Mr. Gravity, provides the downward force.
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...When the LOW pressure subsides, there is no LIFT from the wing....

I was wondering why turbulence destroys lift. Here's what I understood.

When the stall occurs, the turbulent air on the top of the wing is actually slower than the air on the bottom of the wing. In other words, turbulence slows down air.

This means the pressure differential that provided lift is gone. Is this right?
 

exNavyOffRec

Well-Known Member
Omg ASTB!

Took it this morning and got 5/5/5 50. The bare minimum scores to apply for NFO and good scores for SWO. (Form 4)

Math: wasn't terrible. Pretty similar to the study guides. Got stuck on a few.

Reading: pretty simple. Just what you can infer from the passage.

Mechanical: OMG. This was the hardest section I have ever seen! This was nothing like the practice tests. There were so many things I didn't know in this section. I can't even remember what types of questions because they just seemed crazy!

Spatial: pretty easy. Some were difficult, but for the most part I found them pretty easy.

Aviation/nautical: not too bad. I had practiced so hard for this section and there were a few questions that I had no clue what to put. I had the g-force in a loop question, quite a few on wakes and turbulence that I had no idea about, yeah.

Supplemental: was all aviation and nautical again. Again, not bad, but some random things I never looked at before.

I may retake eventually, but I really want to turn my kit in and see what happens. I just want to get in! Glad the first time was okay though... blah.

If aviation is your priority I would study and retake before you submit, if it is SWO then go for it.
 

TnSig

SNA
I took the ASTB today. Not sure what form I took but I scored 6/6/6 53. Not as well as what I was hoping but my recruiter seemed optimistic because I have a high GPA and solid letters of recommendation. He did not recommend retaking the test unless I am a non-select. Applying for SNA/NFO/IW/INTEL so I'll be keeping my fingers crossed.

The gouge on this site prepares you really well for the Math and Mechanical sections of the test. The difficulty levels are fairly comparable. The section that surprisingly got me was the Aviation Supplemental. This is where I had all of the more difficult aviation questions thrown in, including some history questions I hadn't seen before. I read all about John Glenn and Chuck Yeager and all of the big names and dates in military aviation but there were some questions that I wouldn't have known unless I spent a lot of time watching the History or Military channels. Specific aircraft used in specific wars and things like that. I had an excellent foundation in flight mechanics and instruments but there were some things like instruments I had never read about in either the gouge nor my book.

Spatial apperception was like everyone says - exactly like all of the practice examples with some occasional extreme angles. There was only one that I was unsure of because two of the options were almost identical.

Now just looking forward to December!
 

exNavyOffRec

Well-Known Member
Thank you! :) I may re-test, but I think I more just want to get in and have everything start. We will see! :D

You do have time to retest before the next board deadline, it is very very rare for a person with 5's to be picked up aviation, that is why I said if it is your priority to retest, but if you essentially just want to go SWO then stick with what you have.
 
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