HAL Pilot said:
Whoa!! That looks more like something that I scraped off my windshield the other day. Or something I had removed from my backside a few years ago.
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Scooters Forever (A-4 Skyhawk Tribute Thread)
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Whoa!! That looks more like something that I scraped off my windshield the other day. Or something I had removed from my backside a few years ago.
webmaster said:I still think the footage of the 707 doing a barrell role is one of the most amazing pieces of footage, you sure that isn't a "check in the box" too? Or has it already been done on an oceanic flight, jk
"TEX" Johnson and Boeing President William M. Allen, Nov. 1955 .... "Inside" The Famous Barell Roll
There is a link somewhere to a black & white film of the maneuver. I'm not going to look for it right now.
Over Lake Washington on August 7, 1955, B707 Chief Test Pilot, Tex Johnston stunned the crowd at the Seafair Gold Cup hydroplane race by performing an aileron roll with the prototype Dash-80, the precursor to the Boeing 707. Tex ushered in the era of the modern commercial jet with sensational flair.
Johnston's aerobatic maneuver with the giant Dash 80 was actually a variation on a barrel roll. Unlike a conventional aileron roll, Johnston maintained positive gravity through the maneuver. Even Boeing President William Allen was taken by surprise as he escorted potential customers who are seeing the jet for the first time. Talk about a big first impression!
Flying at more than 400 miles per hour just 400 feet above the water, Johnston commenced a sudden ascent. The jet's swept-back wings spiraled as the 128-foot-long, 160,000 pound plane rolled, flying for a short time upside down. Then, for extra measure, Johnston performed a second barrel-roll. Boeing President Allen asked a guest with a heart problem if he could borrow his pills. The potential jet buyers were duly impressed.
Jolly Roger
Yes. I am a Pirate.
A4sForever said:
Ask and ye shall recieve, oh experienced sage of the air.
http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photogallery/Videos/707 Roll.mpg
(Pretty Big file)
Jolly Roger
Yes. I am a Pirate.
A4s,
I am sure you have done this. Probably into this very airport.
http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photogallery/Videos/Boeing 747 Extreme Landing.mpg
I am sure you have done this. Probably into this very airport.
http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photogallery/Videos/Boeing 747 Extreme Landing.mpg
Jolly Roger said:
That's it -- many thanks. Tex Johnson was a STUD ... I do not think he ever flew a day in combat nor in the military, for that matter. But he was there for many developments that are part of our aviation history, lore, and lineage ...
Jolly Roger said:
Actually, I have done something disturbingly similar -- 2 1/2 years ago, being chased into Guam by a typhoon. Your clip basically replicates the last 200-300 feet of the approach/landing @ Agana. We should never have been dispatched down there --- we were the first A/C into the field for two days. The wind was still wa-a-a-a-a-a-a-yyy over 50-60 knots when I got close to the ground.
The only way I made it in was because I flew the Whale "like an A4" -- or like an airplane instead of an airliner, if you will. Most of the SOP, sim checks, line checks, ground school, talk, talk, talk, etc, etc, blew right out the window. No joke, not trying to sound "heroic".... you ALWAYS end up doing what you have to do to accomplish the "mission" -- safely (?). As I said, we should never have been dispatched ....
Maybe I will get the courage to post the story on this website -- probably not. Loose Lips Sink Ships and all that ....
THE CREW: SECOND OFFICER, FIRST OFFICER and YOURS TRULY ... can you pick me out of the lineup ... ???
Screamtruth
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This one probably will be answered by the topic, but I was curious on the performance of the A4. I assume that the aircraft does not have a blower, but how is the power vs. manuverablity? I guess I could ask this for all aircraft that are not powered with the burners, so how do they perform in tight turns or climbs? Do they bleed the energy off fast, or does the weight and aerodynamics of the jet kind of balance this.
I remember as a kid seeing the Blues front the A4, and it was amazing.
I remember as a kid seeing the Blues front the A4, and it was amazing.
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Blutonski816
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I read an article about the A-4 drivers from ATSI who prefer not to dirty up the wings during DACT against newer A/C like the hornet. The argument there being that the -18's auto slats would present extra drag that would make it harder to recover energy after unloading...
Then again, those guys have their own brand of A-4s... Ex-Israeli birds with the 11,000 lbs engine, a lot of the fat shaved off, and a shift in the Center of Gravity to enhance pitch control, just to name a few of the mods.... I actually got to see one a few weeks ago at the Nellis Airshow... very cool to see a scooter that was still flying, and not just a Museum piece...
Man, that jet looks awesome. It looks alot like the A-4M...probably what it is...just with the mods you spoke about...and I really have no idea about the ATSI drivers....I imagine that since they don't have a blower, getting energy back after bleeding down takes much longer in a fight...and I am willing to bet that can get you in a bad situation in a hurry...
