I love that this thought ended with partisan rhetoric. Be the change you want to see in the world ?
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I think you just proved his point for him.
One of the better things I recently saw on Reddit (paraphrased but the point remains):
2020 Internet political argument 101 is basically "I can't believe people actually think that [insert absurd bad-faith caricature of the worst possible interpretation of the other side's viewpoint] and have a problem with the idea that [insert the most charitable interpretation of own beliefs possible]."
I can't tell whether you got the point of my post, but to your point I'll just say there's plenty of brainwashing going in all directions. For my part, I'm a conservative disappointed with the large group of conservatives that have hitched their wagon to Trump. Would like to see an independent candidate emerge, but not likely at this point.
I agree. I am thinking of the campus “safe space” where no one is allowed to disagree with someone. Or, teachers having to provide a “trigger warning” before teaching topics that are possibly controversial, allowing students to exit the room and skip the learning material without academic consequence. Or, altogether removing controversial content like The Color Purple, Huckleberry Finn, or To Kill A Mockingbird - which used to be required reading back in my day precisely because they dealt with important, complex issues. These types of norms (which are wholly new) create and reinforce the notion that you can have a theory and be safe from anyone dissuading you from your theory.
I think it’s sort of silly to not admit that there is a significant lack of conservative voices in American higher education. I understand that some professions tend to sway one way or another, but to say that education overall doesn’t have a clear bias is willful ignorance.
We don’t need to exist in an echo chamber where we’re all aggressively agreeing with each other. But these seeds that are sown in classrooms grow up into our current situation, which is what @Hair Warrior described earlier. By saying “that’s just partisan rhetoric“ and dismissing his viewpoint offhand, you’re continuing the cycle.
Also, the fact that a high school teacher can get fired for tweeting a fact (Donald Trump IS our President) should tell you everything you need to know about the current state of American politics.
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We don’t need to exist in an echo chamber where we’re all aggressively agreeing with each other. But these seeds that are sown in classrooms grow up into our current situation, which is what @Hair Warrior described earlier. By saying “that’s just partisan rhetoric“ and dismissing his viewpoint offhand, you’re continuing the cycle.
Also, the fact that a high school teacher can get fired for tweeting a fact (Donald Trump IS our President) should tell you everything you need to know about the current state of American politics.
Michigan teacher and coach says he was fired for tweeting 'Trump is our President'
"I felt a lot of people were rooting against our president and I just felt like we should be rooting for him to succeed," Kucera said. "Because when he succeeds. we all succeed."
The problem with all those liberal professors
University faculties need not be expected to mirror their societies, but students and teachers ought not live in the information cocoons created by the overabundance of liberal professors in U.S. higher education.
Williams: Political bias and anti-Americanism on college campuses
A recent Pew Research Center survey finds that only half of American adults think colleges and universities are having a positive effect on our nation. The leftward political bias, held
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Right. Nobody at OAN, 4Chan or FNC is doing any brainwashing or spreading of propaganda or insane conspiracy theories. It’s just the (left wing) teachers and (left wing) media.
So how far reaching are these notions for real? Are they limited to frankly what are schools and classes for people who are already bought in to these sort of notions?
Book censorship due to content is nothing new. I disagree with it but parents being upset about ideas that schools expose their kids to has been going on for ages. It's not like people just started banning books.
CHAZ/CHOP and the nightly activities in Portland seem to come right to the top of my mind. To what theories do these peaceful protesters prescribe? They also seem open to intelligent debate and ready to listen to constructive ideas that will help them bring about meaningful change.
Book censorship is a slippery slope, but there’s a difference between parents wanting to ban the Harry Potter series because it promotes wizardry and sorcery and those who want to ban books like Uncle Tom’s Cabin or The Diary of Anne Frank because they talk about “scary” and/or inconvenient subjects and To Kill A Mockingbird because they use words to describe people that are no longer acceptable. I’m against censorship in all forms, unless it’s common sense in preventing a child from reading something too graphic for their age (for example, my 7 year-old reading a Playboy).
Regardless, we weren’t really talking about parents here, it was about educators. If a parent wants to keep something from their child that’s on them. But I believe the foundation for being able to understand both sides of an argument and realize that not everyone can get what they want all the time begins at home. I think almost any parent can agree with that.
What’s the latest propaganda and insane conspiracy theories they’re pushing over at Fox News these days?
What? Go read my other reply.
Take politics out of it. My point is that many teachers and the media are often reinforcing the idea that a one-sided viewpoint is better than tolerating different viewpoints. But this practice actually hurts intellectual discourse.
Also, I don’t know what those acronyms are, but I assume they are media outlets or PACs (that I clearly don’t follow). Stop trying to project a partisan slant onto my nonpartisan comments.
Just accept the fact that you’re a terrible brainwashed conservative person and everything will make a lot more sense.
Edit: forgot to add cultist.
You decry hyperpartisanship, then proceed to list two examples from the left without addressing examples from the right, which is ironic... don’t you think?
I’ll give an example of the media’s non-partisanship.
The New York Times published an op-ed by Senator Tom Cotton.
And then they fired the editor who allowed it a few days later because of the woke outrage at daring to publish a conservative Republican’s point of view.
So yeah, the newspaper of record will definitely publish contrarian viewpoints. (It only fires the people responsible afterwards.)
I didn’t say the left. I said teachers and the news media. I actually think the right and left news media are equally to blame. They’re all shit. Where are the Walter Cronkites or Peter Jennings who just reported the facts without spin, and let the viewers decide?
Teachers catch my blame because they are shaping the minds and common sense traits of future generations, and therefore I believe they have a lofty obligation it to students, parents, and taxpayers to provide a setting that acknowledges and approves of a diverse variety of viewpoints being tolerated.