MasterBates
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Probe in the trap with a center light. Otherwise it would have been MISTRAP.
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I was considering it...
I was really hoping to catch the tail end of the prowler wave and transition to shockers... (im going to keep using shocker untill it catches on
)Edited to change smileys
Why are the expeditionary squadrons going away? Wont the airforce still need the navy for tatical electronic jamming or will they finally fill that mission themselves?
Why are the expeditionary squadrons going away? Wont the airforce still need the navy for tatical electronic jamming or will they finally fill that mission themselves?
We've given them fair warning and they are supposed to be developing their own EA assets. As the transition plan stands right now, expeditionary goes away when Shocker is up and running.
Brett
Harrier Dude
Living the dream
To continue the threadjack...
Why did the air force give up their EF-111 Ravens? An air force guy (therefore highly suspect in objectivity) told me it was better at EA than the Prowler but politics gave the nod to the navy/Marine Prowlers (see again objectivity).
I'm not an EA expert, so is there any truth to that?
Harrier Dude
Living the dream
Wasn't really talking about Waveoff, just speaking in general terms.
But - good for Waveoff. Hope it was a succesful landing.
FX-IM AFU-IM TMPIC-AR............OK
Maybe he was just FAW.......Bolter?
It was not politics, it was a JCS level decision (as part of Joint Warfighting Capability Assessment (JWCA) process) in early nineties that was looking at redundacy of roles/missions vis a vis platforms. They looked at EF-111 vs EA-6B anf Navy VQ vs USAF RC-135. The verdict was Prowler had more capability, not the other way around (USAF was also getting out of the F-111business so it was a pricey proposition any way). OSD accepted the JCS decison and made it reality in the following POM cycle via a Program Decision Memorandum (PDM). USAF put a supposedly poison pill in it though by demanding "Expeditionary" support of EA, which forced Navy to maintain a Prowler force of 104 Prowlers to meet warfighter commitments across the services.
The EF-111 had the exact same system and Pods as the Prowlers, so it sounds like BS to me. I don't know the specific reasoning behind it, but suspect it had lots to do with killing the F-111 and not wanting to financially and logistically support a legacy airframe.
Brett
Harrier Dude
Living the dream
@Heyjoe......I can always count on you for solid beltway gouge that is broken down so that I can pretty well understand it. Thanks.
Brett, why was the EF-111 able to do all of that stuff with just 1 extra guy and not 3? Did they have a better cockpit setup or something?
Okay, I'm just a P-3 puke and don't speak LSO. I get the OK but the rest is jiberish....
MasterBates
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I am an LSO but I do not speak their dialect of LSO.
LOL...methinks AFU-IM = "AFU" ne c'est pas?
MasterBates
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Here is our grading system. Scores reset after each port.
Burddog Woody DJP JACK MASTER WHACKER
CENTER 2 1 0 1 2 3
MISTRAP 0 1 2 0 1 2
POWER 0 0 0 0 0 0
WIT 0 0 1 0 0 0
WTF 0 1 0 0 0 1
A "CENTER" is when the "CENTER" light illuminates when the RSD (Rapid Securing Device aka TRAP) locks up. It means you are centered ovet the RAST track slot.
MISTRAP. You did not get the probe in the hole, but on top of the RSD. Totally missing the RSD counts for 2. (RSD is a ~3x3' box)
POWER. LSO had to call power on approach. Worth 3-5 beers depending on LSO.
WIT. "Wheel In Trap" Self explanatory. Somebody will do it sometime, somewhere. Get pictures. Great for hail and farewells. 6 beer fine.
WTF. Whiskey Tango Foxtrot. Mistrapping on the wire, trying to fly while locked in the trap, not landing with MAX TENSION and other general boneheadedness not categorized elsewhere.
Burddog Woody DJP JACK MASTER WHACKER
CENTER 2 1 0 1 2 3
MISTRAP 0 1 2 0 1 2
POWER 0 0 0 0 0 0
WIT 0 0 1 0 0 0
WTF 0 1 0 0 0 1
A "CENTER" is when the "CENTER" light illuminates when the RSD (Rapid Securing Device aka TRAP) locks up. It means you are centered ovet the RAST track slot.
MISTRAP. You did not get the probe in the hole, but on top of the RSD. Totally missing the RSD counts for 2. (RSD is a ~3x3' box)
POWER. LSO had to call power on approach. Worth 3-5 beers depending on LSO.
WIT. "Wheel In Trap" Self explanatory. Somebody will do it sometime, somewhere. Get pictures. Great for hail and farewells. 6 beer fine.
WTF. Whiskey Tango Foxtrot. Mistrapping on the wire, trying to fly while locked in the trap, not landing with MAX TENSION and other general boneheadedness not categorized elsewhere.
MasterBates
Well-Known Member
That should look like a table. Read as such
MasterBates
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Center is -1 beer. Fines payable in beer in next port.