HAL, I've always respected A4s wisdom, even if I didn't agree with his opinions. Hopefully he'd say the same about me. Don't know. I will say that respect is a two-way street, though. I will always give someone their due respect and pay attention to the opinion of someone who's been in "the shit" and flown a gazillion hours. In return, I expect not to automatically be told that I'm wrong and "eating shit" for the man if I disagree.