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Flight School backed up

justwren

im a bird
Eh. I'll submit that there's probably value in PERS or CNATRA spending some of their budget getting some Lean experts to value stream map the pipeline between commissioning and showing up in a fleet squadron, then do a series of problem-solving workshops Ishikawa diagramming the bottlenecks and doing some good old-fashioned root cause analysis. If Toyota can use it for cars and the software industry can use it for code, Navy Air can use it for FNGs.

That said, I'm also not enough of a fucking blackshoe to say that we need to yoink a good deal away from the kids in Pensacola. Big Navy will cause enough pain and suffering later; why not let them enjoy life for a bit first?
A month ago, they started sending people home for like a year of OHARP before reporting back to pensacola.
 

justwren

im a bird
Glad to see OHARP is finally coming back - they took that shit away because of COVID and we were "stuck" in PCOLA. Not a bad time though.
yeah they began to bring oharp back around the time i graduated OCS last december. they gave me about 2.5 months of OHARP, report to pcola in feb and ive been stuck here waiting to class up since. ?
 

cjwinton01

SNA Pro-Rec Y
It's the little clown jet that could... except it can't anymore.
this might be a stupid question but why didn’t the navy just go in with the USAF on the t-7a? Aside from navalizing, the t-7a at least visually looks a lot like a super hornet, not to mention both are made by Boeing.
 

Griz882

Frightening children with the Griz-O-Copter!
pilot
Contributor
this might be a stupid question but why didn’t the navy just go in with the USAF on the t-7a? Aside from navalizing, the t-7a at least visually looks a lot like a super hornet, not to mention both are made by Boeing.
The T-45 was fielded well before the T-7A was put on the drawing board.
 

cjwinton01

SNA Pro-Rec Y
The T-45 was fielded well before the T-7A was put on the drawing board.
Yes I know haha but I’m talking about more recently. The air force is going to start replacing the t-38s with the t-7a in the next year or two. I’m just wondering why the navy didn’t just go in with the air force on the t-7a, especially with the recent issues that the t-45 has been having(not just the recent engine issue).
 

Griz882

Frightening children with the Griz-O-Copter!
pilot
Contributor
Yes I know haha but I’m talking about more recently. The air force is going to start replacing the t-38s with the t-7a in the next year or two. I’m just wondering why the navy didn’t just go in with the air force on the t-7a, especially with the recent issues that the t-45 has been having(not just the recent engine issue).
Any navy trainer would have to be more or less a clean sheet design. Converting the T-7 would make it…well…not a T-7 but an entirely new aircraft. I believe the T-45 is slated to hold on for another 10 or 15 years - others here will know better and I could be off a number of years.
 

sevenhelmet

Low calorie attack from the Heartland
pilot
Any navy trainer would have to be more or less a clean sheet design. Converting the T-7 would make it…well…not a T-7 but an entirely new aircraft. I believe the T-45 is slated to hold on for another 10 or 15 years - others here will know better and I could be off a number of years.
This. But I have a hunch the USN will end up going T-7 eventually. Probably after lots of kicking and screaming and delays in the training pipeline.
 
At the rate that everything is going with the T45 - moving navy students to the airforce T38 pipeline wouldn't be a bad idea until the T-7 rolls around.
 

nittany03

Recovering NFO. Herder of Programmers.
pilot
None
Super Moderator
Contributor
There was talk awhile back about canning TRACOM CQ if Magic Carpet drove the FCLP requirement low enough. No idea if that went anywhere, but either decision would have a big impact on what Son-of-Goshawk looks like.
 

Dboom85

Banned
At the rate that everything is going with the T45 - moving navy students to the airforce T38 pipeline wouldn't be a bad idea until the T-7 rolls around.
Do you have any idea how much trouble they're having keeping the T38 engines airworthy? A lot of them are past their design life time
 
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