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sevenhelmet

sevenhelmet

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Sonog said:
Like half of disassociated sea tour jobs and every duty section can easily be done by a ensign.

Also, they're probably more in the know on DC stuff coming right from OCS.
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But that's what senior LT / post-DHs are for, isn't it? You train them at vast cost, and THEN you put them in a completely different job than an O-1 could do. Not the other way around.

;)
 
Sonog

Sonog

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sevenhelmet said:
But that's what senior LT / post-DHs are for, isn't it? You train them at vast cost, and THEN you put them in a completely different job than an O-1 could do. Not the other way around.

;)
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Also, newly commissioned OCS ensigns are the definition of motivated. They'll do anything.

Navy: "Hey do you want to go sleep on an aircraft carrier and have an overweight SESL yell at you to pick up trash at 0600?"
OCS Ensign: Can I polish my black boots and hold DIVO quarters?"
Navy: "You most certainly can!"
 
nittany03

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Griz882 said:
This A-Pool thing bothers me in a minor way. For god’s sake, send them to a boat or a squadron where they can at least get a feel for the navy. Make them work for that check.
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Eh. I'll submit that there's probably value in PERS or CNATRA spending some of their budget getting some Lean experts to value stream map the pipeline between commissioning and showing up in a fleet squadron, then do a series of problem-solving workshops Ishikawa diagramming the bottlenecks and doing some good old-fashioned root cause analysis. If Toyota can use it for cars and the software industry can use it for code, Navy Air can use it for FNGs.

That said, I'm also not enough of a fucking blackshoe to say that we need to yoink a good deal away from the kids in Pensacola. Big Navy will cause enough pain and suffering later; why not let them enjoy life for a bit first?
 
Griz882

Griz882

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nittany03 said:
Eh. I'll submit that there's probably value in PERS or CNATRA spending some of their budget getting some Lean experts to value stream map the pipeline between commissioning and showing up in a fleet squadron, then do a series of problem-solving workshops Ishikawa diagramming the bottlenecks and doing some good old-fashioned root cause analysis. If Toyota can use it for cars and the software industry can use it for code, Navy Air can use it for FNGs.

That said, I'm also not enough of a fucking blackshoe to say that we need to yoink a good deal away from the kids in Pensacola. Big Navy will cause enough pain and suffering later; why not let them enjoy life for a bit first?
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Fair enough, but you don’t gotta be a Lean Six Sigma black belt to recognize that giving a 22 year old a paycheck with no responsibility attached is a recipe for the occasional negative headline.
 
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exNavyOffRec

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Griz882 said:
Fair enough, but you don’t gotta be a Lean Six Sigma black belt to recognize that giving a 22 year old a paycheck with no responsibility attached is a recipe for the occasional negative headline.
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That applies quite well to young enlisted also, age range would be just a bit lower.

Young officers will do pretty much the same things as young enlisted, just at a much lower rate.
 
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