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Geez, you're picky :) Ok, how about wine tasting? There's a lot of wine tasting to do not far away. And, granted, you're about 3 hours away from L.A. or San Fran, but it's definitely feasible for a weekend getaway.
Regardless, I promise, Lemoore isn't as bad as you think. Not the greatest place on earth, but not that bad either. ;)
 
Good luck and I do hope you get what you want...it's just too bad it doesn't always play out that way. Also, being a military wife, you must be prepared to give up a lot of your own dreams, career, etc.,be supportive, and make sacrifices, including being stuck in the middle of nowhere:). Every place has it's ups and downs, and face it the Navy doesn't have the most desirable duty stations:), I would put more thought into what platform YOU want to go into since this does effect the next x amount of years of your career. Not that you shouldn't consider her opinion of course, but this is a huge commitment and I am sure if she stands behind you, you will both be happy where ever you end up. Good luck!!
 
GMan1976 said:
But, that being said, both myself and my fiancee come from families that have remained together (no divorces on either side) and we both value our relationship more than the status quo thought process around today of "well if it doens't work out, we'll just get a divorce". That's BS. Marriages are tough, you have to work for them.
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I've got lets see- 1? no. 2? no. 3? no- 4 friends who are either in the middle of a divorce or have already sealed the deal (and another whose relationship is on the way there) since I started flight school last March. Most had been togather as a couple in some way shape or form for over 3 or 4 years and I'm pretty sure all of them valued their relationship and thought they'd be married just once in their lives.

Never say never...
 
zippy said:
I've got lets see- 1? no. 2? no. 3? no- 4 friends who are either in the middle of a divorce or have already sealed the deal (and another whose relationship is on the way there) since I started flight school last March. Most had been togather as a couple in some way shape or form for over 3 or 4 years and I'm pretty sure all of them valued their relationship and thought they'd be married just once in their lives.

Never say never...
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Well articulated. Of course everyone thinks it won't happen to them, but the stats are not in your favor.

Brett
 
GMan1976 said:
So, while you say that her view is minute compared to mine on where we get stationed, I disagree. But hey, that's just me talkin'....
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I would be willing to bet that she loves you enough to know that if jets are your dream and the Navy offers them that she will let you take it.

She knows it is only for a relatively few years that you will be in Lemoore, and you might get something more appealing later.

Besides, impressions can be just that and you may not know how good a place is until you try it. Cse in point, many Navy and non-Navy people I know say that Norfolk is a pit and they would rather die than be stationed there. Unfortunately, many are working off rumors that do not say that Va Beach is great and I personally thought about living there after graduating college as a civilian.

Just a couple thoughts I had. :)
 
greysword said:
I would be willing to bet that she loves you enough to know that if jets are your dream and the Navy offers them that she will let you take it.

She knows it is only for a relatively few years that you will be in Lemoore, and you might get something more appealing later.

Besides, impressions can be just that and you may not know how good a place is until you try it. Cse in point, many Navy and non-Navy people I know say that Norfolk is a pit and they would rather die than be stationed there. Unfortunately, many are working off rumors that do not say that Va Beach is great and I personally thought about living there after graduating college as a civilian.

Just a couple thoughts I had. :)
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I am stationed in Norfolk - It is a pit and I would rather be elsewhere. But the job and people I work with are awesome.
 
I had no input (and didn't want any) into my husband's dream sheet for platform, but the duty station dream sheet was all me. My husband was pretty indifferent about where we ended up and I had very strong feelings about where I didn't want to end up, so we thought that was fair. Luckily we agreed on and got our first choice.
 
zippy said:
I've got lets see- 1? no. 2? no. 3? no- 4 friends who are either in the middle of a divorce or have already sealed the deal (and another whose relationship is on the way there) since I started flight school last March. Most had been togather as a couple in some way shape or form for over 3 or 4 years and I'm pretty sure all of them valued their relationship and thought they'd be married just once in their lives.

Never say never...
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I have to agree with GMan on this one. Knowing 4 people who are getting divorces is just reinforcing what GMan said about the general attitude that people have about marriage, that if it isn't working out for either party, then just punch out. My family def had an impact on what I chose out of primary. Was it my main concern? No, not really, but it played a factor. I plan on having this family after my time in the Navy is over.
I guess what I am saying is that you can have it both ways. You don't have to get a divorce if you choose what you want. If you and your spouse have a good strong relationship, it will not matter what you choose. But I don't neccesarily agree with people saying that you shouldn't at least let your fam factor in to your choice. By the same token, do not make a choice that you will regret later.
Who knows, G, the Navy might have other plans for you anyway! Hello quality spread!
 
e6bflyer said:
My family def had an impact on what I chose out of primary. Was it my main concern? No, not really, but it played a factor. I plan on having this family after my time in the Navy is over.
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That's all I'm really saying. It IS a factor. Not the #1 factor, but a factor just the same. I know that my fiancee is making huge sacrifices for me. She is putting her career second to mine. She is moving where the Navy puts us. Etc Etc Etc. Of course we discussed all this before we ever even were engaged. In any event, I know that she'll stand by me and do it all with a smile on her face. Thinking of her (and "us") when I make important decisions is the least I can do.

Come on now spouses! Let the rep pour in! (haha)
 
e6bflyer said:
Knowing 4 people who are getting divorces is just reinforcing what GMan said about the general attitude that people have about marriage, that if it isn't working out for either party, then just punch out.
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I don't think people have this attitude at all. I have yet to meet an engaged person that thinks they will just "punch out if it doesn't work." They all have high hopes of making it work and being together forever. The statistics don't take effect until later.

So, let's say it is 5 years after the honeymoon and all you do is argue so much you want to stab her in the head with an icepick. What is the right thing to do? Sure, you could stay together and force it to work. After all, our grandparent's generation did just that. They stayed together until the anger just faded into bitterness and resentment. Take a good look at old married couples - some of them are really in love, but lots of them friggin' hate each other. I don't really see any virtue in this. If a marriage just can't function properly, why force it?

Even the "we have kids" argument can be questioned. After all, which is worse, to raise kids in a divorced family, or in a house where the parents fight all the time or just plain don't like each other.

Normally, I would hate to contribute directly to the death of a thread, but I think this one has already lived a long and complete life. Maybe it will go out with a bang.
 
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