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COVID-19

FrankTheTank

Professional Pot Stirrer
pilot
It doesn't scare the hell out of me. I am disappointed they do that. But they are private companies that so far do not fall into any of the public utility type of exemptions to government regulation. What would scare the hell out of me is the government actually manipulating private companies to ensure "fairness" as the party in power sees it. Oh, they are not 100% manipulating contrary views. I have seen many dozens of social media posts in this thread that are contrary. There is enough hyperbola here.
You should be!
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...es-to-george-soros-or-his-organization-report
 

PantsJr

New Member
None
Now that mandatory vaccination is nearly upon us, is there any indication that medical exemptions would even remotely be considered for those with demonstrated immunity?
 

wink

War Hoover NFO.
None
Super Moderator
Contributor
PRIVATE COMPANY! I don't do social media. AW is the closest I come to it. Are you as bent out of shape about all the column submissions and letters to the editor the NY Times and WAPO do not print? Do you have a solution? Instead of pointing out what you find so disturbing and insisting everyone else be just as concerned, do something about it. There are some suggestions short of government editorial approval that are on the table regarding social media fairness. Pick one and work with your congressman. Me, I prefer liberty over a solution that gives the government more control.
 

MIDNJAC

is clara ship
pilot
Why is is so easy to find every flavor of porn but not so easy to find Doctors, scientists, virologists, and etc that aren’t in line with Fauci? Cause they are out there!

I'd personally prefer the porn. The battle lines have been drawn and everyone is in their trench. Nobody is getting convinced to think any differently than they already do, either on this forum or in this country. The opposing viewpoints are readily available to anyone who cares to look. I'd wager that not one single mind has been changed in the course of this 25 million post thread. That's where we are as a country right now. We demonize those who share different views, and unquestioningly presume our own to be infallible. I happen to agree with a lot that has been said about the mixed messages provided by govt leadership, and I too question the utility of masks (especially given what qualifies as a mask). But this thread is a lot of talking past each other.
 

Tycho_Brohe

Well-Known Member
pilot
Contributor
No shit! Who is gonna be the most likely new target for the virus? But that doesn’t change that you vaccinated are the ones causing the variants. I notice you didn‘t even comment on that part of the video….
Didn't we talk like 80 pages ago about how the Delta variant appeared before the vaccine was even available? Alpha was detected way back in September. Vaccinated people don't cause variants any more than unvaccinated do. Viruses evolve if given enough time to do so, just like any other organism. The flu does this all the time, hence why we get a new shot each year.

 

Spekkio

He bowls overhand.
I'd personally prefer the porn. The battle lines have been drawn and everyone is in their trench. Nobody is getting convinced to think any differently than they already do, either on this forum or in this country. The opposing viewpoints are readily available to anyone who cares to look. I'd wager that not one single mind has been changed in the course of this 25 million post thread. That's where we are as a country right now. We demonize those who share different views, and unquestioningly presume our own to be infallible. I happen to agree with a lot that has been said about the mixed messages provided by govt leadership, and I too question the utility of masks (especially given what qualifies as a mask). But this thread is a lot of talking past each other.
covid-19...doctors...people arguing...masks...battle lines...

All wrapped in porn...

A good test of rule 34.
 

Spekkio

He bowls overhand.
Nurse: Time for your FDA approved COVID shot, big boy
Patient: COVID is a hoax. Vaccines cause infertility! Why are you wearing a mask, don't you know it's theater?!?
Nurse: I love it when you talk dirty. Now bend over and take it!

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bcort

Member
There are just as many studies showing that it has little to no effect.

These studies are all in vitro/in silico from over a year ago, except for the one that shows ivermectin can help mice with hepatitis, and the one that looks like it was straight-up sponsored by The Ivermectin Company, and which fails to cite any kind of controlled study, opting instead for the "correlation is causation" argument.

It's been over a year. Where are they? Big Pharma didn't see the money in it? What about Merck releasing a statement saying ivermectin is not effective against COVID? Wouldn't they rather people think it works, so they can sell more of it?

"Company scientists continue to carefully examine the findings of all available and emerging studies of ivermectin for the treatment of COVID-19 for evidence of efficacy and safety. It is important to note that, to-date, our analysis has identified:
  • No scientific basis for a potential therapeutic effect against COVID-19 from pre-clinical studies;
  • No meaningful evidence for clinical activity or clinical efficacy in patients with COVID-19 disease, and;
  • A concerning lack of safety data in the majority of studies.
We do not believe that the data available support the safety and efficacy of ivermectin beyond the doses and populations indicated in the regulatory agency-approved prescribing information."

The strongest case I've seen made for ivermectin is still the same study from last year, the second article posted in the quoted post, showing that ivermectin can inhibit COVID in a test tube. Except such a high dose would be toxic for humans, as those same authors state here.

1000% agree with you on this. People needed to be told not to eat Tide Pods not too long ago. Honestly, Heartgard seems relatively tame compared to that.
Not to back track, but regarding the Merck comment above....


Merck & Co said on Wednesday it would supply 60,000-100,000 doses of its experimental COVID-19 treatment to the U.S. government for up to about $356 million.

Like I said before, follow the money...
 

robav8r

Well-Known Member
None
Contributor
From a friend . . . .

ABBOTT AND COSTELLO’S ‘WHO’S BEEN VACCINATED?’
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Bud: ‘You can’t come in here!’
Lou: ‘Why not?’
Bud: ‘Well because you’re unvaccinated.’
Lou: ‘But I’m not sick.’
Bud: ‘It doesn’t matter.’
Lou: ‘Well, why does that guy get to go in?’
Bud: ‘Because he’s vaccinated.’
Lou: ‘But he’s sick!’
Bud: ‘It’s alright. Everyone in here is vaccinated.’
Lou: ‘Wait a minute. Are you saying everyone in there is vaccinated?’
Bud: ‘Yes.’
Lou: ‘So then why can’t I go in there if everyone is vaccinated?’
Bud: ‘Because you’ll make them sick.’
Lou: ‘How will I make them sick if I’m NOT sick and they’re vaccinated.’
Bud: ‘Because you’re unvaccinated.’
Lou: ‘But they’re vaccinated.’
Bud: ‘But they can still get sick.’
Lou: ‘So what the heck does the vaccine do?’
Bud: ‘It vaccinates.’
Lou: ‘So vaccinated people can’t spread covid?’
Bud: ‘Oh no. They can spread covid just as easily as an unvaccinated person.’
Lou: ‘I don’t even know what I’m saying anymore. Look. I’m not sick.
Bud: ‘Ok.’
Lou: ‘And the guy you let in IS sick.’
Bud: ‘That’s right.’
Lou: ‘And everybody in there can still get sick even though they’re vaccinated.’
Bud: ‘Certainly.’
Lou: ‘So why can’t I go in again?’
Bud: ‘Because you’re unvaccinated.’
Lou: ‘I’m not asking who’s vaccinated or not!’
Bud: ‘I’m just telling you how it is.’
Lou: ‘Nevermind. I’ll just put on my mask.’
Bud: ‘That’s fine.’
Lou: ‘Now I can go in?’
Bud: ‘Absolutely not?’
Lou: ‘But I have a mask!’
Bud: ‘Doesn’t matter.’
Lou: ‘I was able to come in here yesterday with a mask.’
Bud: ‘I know.’
Lou: So why can’t I come in here today with a mask? ….If you say ‘because I’m unvaccinated’ again, I’ll break your arm.’
Bud: ‘Take it easy buddy.’
Lou: ‘So the mask is no good anymore.’
Bud: ‘No, it’s still good.’
Lou: ‘But I can’t come in?’
Bud: ‘Correct.’
Lou: ‘Why not?’
Bud: ‘Because you’re unvaccinated.’
Lou: ‘But the mask prevents the germs from getting out.’
Bud: ‘Yes, but people can still catch your germs.’
Lou: ‘But they’re all vaccinated.’
Bud: ‘Yes, but they can still get sick.’
Lou: ‘But I’m not sick!!’
Bud: ‘You can still get them sick.’
Lou: ‘So then masks don’t work!’
Bud: ‘Masks work quite well.’
Lou: ‘So how in the heck can I get vaccinated people sick if I’m not sick and masks work?’
Bud: ‘Third base.’
 

Tycho_Brohe

Well-Known Member
pilot
Contributor
Not to back track, but regarding the Merck comment above....

Like I said before, follow the money...
My point was that they didn't need to say anything about ivermectin. They could just let people assume whatever they want, and get some extra money on the side from doctors prescribing deworming medicine off-label for a viral infection. But they issued a press release instead saying it doesn't work for anything other than its currently approved uses.

You still haven't answered the "why," by the way. Why should anyone consider an unproven drug in dosages higher than considered safe, when several drugs that have been tested and proven to work and were literally designed for COVID are available?
 
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