Fauci is a known and proven liar and being displayed on a pedestal as the “Authority”. And Rochelle (sp?) isn’t any better!
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And you are doing what? Bitching about it on the internet. Trying to get approval from people that nominally agree with you but are simply tired of hearing the same crap over and over and over and over. Go back 2500 posts ago and it will seem just like it was yesterday.
Really? I am seeing plenty in these pages. It comes from somewhere. Yes some are deleted or suppressed. And some of those are total bull shit. Deserved to be removed? I dunno. Depends on the platform I guess. But many provided nothing useful to the debate. Even so, no shortage of opposing views out there or this thread would not be what it is. It is EASY to find all manner of opposing views on masks, vaccines, shut downs, etc. Not just on the internet either. So, even giving you the fact some info is suppressed, enough is out there to be noticed and given it's due.
I don’t know..,Maybe just maybe… I can get somebody, anybody to look deeper and maybe question the lies and manipulated science and then maybe that somebody gets somebody else and etc, etc…. Just maybe we can get some real studies, real truths, and stop being played by elected and not elected officials!
And back to my previrus comment. Facebook and social media is 100% suppressing contrary views! That should scare you and every American! Why is is so easy to find every flavor of porn but not so easy to find Doctors, scientists, virologists, and etc that aren’t in line with Fauci? Cause they are out there! Why does the Taliban have a twitter account but Trump is banned? why are Americans rolling over and just giving in to Vaccine passports, segregation, and compliance?
ABMD
Bullets don't fly without Supply
The comments I saw on this, "That's because the Taliban follow the rules (of Twitter)."
From the story you linked to: Doctor who did early research on COVID vaccine: this is not a pandemic of the unvaccinated
But then look at this...
That picture I copied above is hard data, consistent across the United States. It is the unvaccinated that are filling the hospitals, ICUs, ventilators, morgues. Not sure what other data you need to understand what is going on. Not sure how you can ignore that data.
No shit! Who is gonna be the most likely new target for the virus? But that doesn’t change that you vaccinated are the ones causing the variants. I notice you didn‘t even comment on that part of the video….
I didn't watch the video. I just saw the "not pandemic of unvaccinated" and thought of the hospitals overflowing with unvaccinated and stopped right there. Duh.
Gotcha! Maybe if you’re gonna argue against contrary opinions, you should actually listen to them.
ABMD
Bullets don't fly without Supply
What was the health status of these patients prior to testing positive for COVID?
As expected.
In general, the vaccinated ones in the hospital are a mix of old, immune compromised, or having other vulnerabilities that allowed the virus to get past the vaccine.
The unvaccinated ones are from the general population, same as the last 18 months. Probably over-represented by fat people with other maladies, but also young and healthy but unlucky people. Those same people, when vaccinated, do not go to the hospital.
A couple observations: arguing that Ivermectin/HCQ works because there were positive results in the lab that haven’t been replicated in practice isn’t much different from arguing that masks work because the physics of blocking spit should work even though there’s no evidence of it working as a policy in practice.
Also, “pandemic of the unvaccinated” is both true and false. There’s no doubt the vaccines in use are dramatically reducing hospitalizations and deaths. There’s also no doubt that even with higher vaccination rates the virus will be transmitted and people will die. We need to do a better job convincing people at risk to get vaccinated. That’s not going to happen through strong arm tactics or holding children and young people hostage.
Also, “pandemic of the unvaccinated” is both true and false. There’s no doubt the vaccines in use are dramatically reducing hospitalizations and deaths. There’s also no doubt that even with higher vaccination rates the virus will be transmitted and people will die. We need to do a better job convincing people at risk to get vaccinated. That’s not going to happen through strong arm tactics or holding children and young people hostage.
And the way to do that is to have professional, knowledgeable leaders give us accurate information that is not tailored to a political narrative, party or infringes on the populations right to make their own decisions for their own families and communities. Dr. Fauci (and others) has permanently damaged his credibility because he tailored his recommendations based on what morning show he was on and didn’t think the public was paying attention.
It doesn't scare the hell out of me. I am disappointed they do that. But they are private companies that so far do not fall into any of the public utility type of exemptions to government regulation. What would scare the hell out of me is the government actually manipulating private companies to ensure "fairness" as the party in power sees it. Oh, they are not 100% manipulating contrary views. I have seen many dozens of social media posts in this thread that are contrary. There is enough hyperbola here.
https://nypost.com/2021/08/22/video-shows-hoards-of-maskless-people-at-pelosi-fundraiser/
More do as I say and not as I do!
More do as I say and not as I do!