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Anthropometric issues (are you too big or even too small or...)

badger16

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You have to have blonde hair, blue or green eyes and be no taller than 5'10" to get jets quote]


Unless....
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phrogdriver

More humble than you would understand
pilot
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The figures on "buttock circumference" were illuminating.

And why are all the exemplars for the measurements shirtless dudes? In our equal-opportunity Navy and Marine Corps, I think a woman in her underwear would be perfectly appropriate!
 

HeyJoe

Fly Navy! ...or USMC
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The figures on "buttock circumference" were illuminating.

And why are all the exemplars for the measurements shirtless dudes? In our equal-opportunity Navy and Marine Corps, I think a woman in her underwear would be perfectly appropriate!

I seem to recall that the principal investigators were all women. Guess that's the way they liked their subjects....;)
 

Uncle Fester

Robot Pimp
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The only height-only cutoff I know of is for E-2 NFO. 5'4" and below is "disqualed" for reach-up-pull-the-ditching-hatch purposes. However comma it's not an official NOMI anthro thing, just an arbitrary measurement. If you're a hobbit and really want to fly E-2s, they'll fit-check you; they just take you up to Norfolk, toss you in the back of a RAG bird and have you pull and replace the hatch a few times. Mrs Fester is 5'0" and could do it.

I know most folks wouldn't cry themselves to sleep were they disqualed from E-2s, but for smaller NFOs who are below mins for ejection seats, it'd be your only way to a Boat community.
 

HuggyU2

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I'm told the Navy has an Anthropometric Research/Operational/Whatever unit, maybe a Pensacola, that are devoted full time to cockpit/anthro issues. If anyone has a phone # or other contact info, could you post it for me?
 

lov2playlax22

New Member
Measurements?

Unbelievably bad gouge. I've posted this before, enjoy.

*Note*, these are from CNRC's site and may not accurately reflect the recent changes for EA-6B sitting height. Hopefully this will clear up some of the misconceptions in this thread.

ANTHRO REQUIREMENTS:

FOR MALE SNA:
1. Thumb-tip Reach FR: 29.5 inches or greater
2. Buttock Knee Length: greater than 22 inches, but less than 26.5 inches
3. Sitting Height: greater than 34 inches, but less than 38.8 inches
FOR FEMALE SNA:
1. Thumb-tip Reach FR: 29.5 inches or greater
2. Buttock Knee Length: greater than 22 inches, but less than 26.5 inches
3. Sitting Height: greater than 33.5 inches, but less than 38.8 inches
FOR SNFO (MALE OR FEMALE):
1. Thumb-tip Reach FR: 27.5 inches or greater
2. Buttock Knee Length: 20.5 inches or greater
3. Sitting Height: 32 inches or greater
The following guidelines give directions as far as height concerns. Generally an applicant between 66" and 74" will be compatible for all pipelines.

FOR SNA:
1. IF 64 INCHES OR GREATER, BUT LESS THAN 76 INCHES:

- MOST LIKELY ANTHROPOMETRICALLY COMPATIBLE WITH AT LEAST TWO PIPELINES (SOMETIMES THREE)

2. IF GREATER THAN 76 INCHES, BUT LESS THAN 78 INCHES:

- MOST LIKELY ANTHROPOMETRICALLY COMPATIBLE WITH ONLY ONE PIPELINE (NORMALLY PROPS), BUT POSSIBLY TWO PIPELINES (DEPENDS ON SITTING HT).

3. IF LESS THAN 64 INCHES:
• SAFE ANTHROPOMETRICS COMPATIBILITY WITH ANY PIPELINE IS HIGHLY UNLIKELY!

• INDIVIDUAL IN QUESTION SHOULD BE SENT TO NOMI FOR OFFICIAL ANTHROPOMETRIC MEASUREMENT AND EVALUATION BY NASC FLIGHT PHYSIOLOGIST
FOR SNFO:
1. IF BETWEEN 64 INCHES AND 78 INCHES:

- MOST LIKELY ANTHROPOMETRICALLY COMPATIBLE WITH TWO PIPELINES (PROP & JET), BUT POSSIBLE AIRCRAFT RESTRICTIONS SUCH AS THE EA-6B FOR INDIVIDUALS WITH SITTING HEIGHTS GREATER THAN 37.4 INCHES.

2. IF BETWEEN 60 INCHES AND 64 INCHES:
MOST LIKELY ANTHROPOMETRICALLY COMPATIBLE WITH TWO PIPELINES (PROP & JET), BUT POSSIBLE AIRCRAFT RESTRICTIONS SUCH AS THE T-2, F/A-18, AND EA-6B FOR INDIVIDUALS WITH FUNCTIONAL REACHES LESS THAN 27.5 INCHES (T-REX ARMS).

Brett


Hey Brett,

That seems to be some really helpful info. I really appreciate you helping everyone out like that. I have a question for you since you seem to be knowledgeable on the subject. I have a Thumb-tip Reach of ~31", Buttock Knee Length of ~22", and a sitting height of ~36". I am 5'7 and 3/4" tall, and weight about 165-170 lbs. Do you know of any aircraft that I may be restricted from flying? I would greatly appreciate what you think.

Thanks,
Drew
(SNA Select)
 

Flash

SEVAL/ECMO
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Hey Brett,

That seems to be some really helpful info. I really appreciate you helping everyone out like that. I have a question for you since you seem to be knowledgeable on the subject. I have a Thumb-tip Reach of ~31", Buttock Knee Length of ~22", and a sitting height of ~36". I am 5'7 and 3/4" tall, and weight about 165-170 lbs. Do you know of any aircraft that I may be restricted from flying? I would greatly appreciate what you think.

Thanks,
Drew
(SNA Select)

Well.......if you look at the numbers you seem to be good to go. As a rather normal sounding person I would be surprised if you were disqualified from any aircraft.
 
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