1,001 questions about the ASTB (post your scores & ask your questions here!)

[OUSOONER]

AQR: 3
PFAR: 3
FOFAR: 4
OAR: 40

Should I REtest?

Are you going Pilot or NFO? If so..those don't even meet the minimums. Yes retest. Get a good study guide...use the search engine and find out what one's are good and are currently used by other applicants. Take two weeks or so and really study. Would you come into an ACT/SAT without ample preparation?

 

[wink]

AQR: 3
PFAR: 3
FOFAR: 4
OAR: 40

Should I REtest?

Regardless of the program. Yes. It is just too competitive today.

 

[ea6bflyr]

Regardless of the program. Yes. It is just too competitive today.

Concur. STUDY, then re-test. In that order. Let me guess, you didn't study for the exam?

-ea6bflyr

 

[funday]

Can some one explain the scoring to me.... I know what the four numbers are but not what they actually mean?

AQR: Academic Qualification Rating, scored 1-9
PFAR: Pilot Flight Aptitude Rating, scored 1-9
FOFAR: Flight Officer Flight Aptitude Rating, scored 1-9
OAR: Officer Aptitude Rating, scored 20-80

Also, in that being answered that should help me determine how to improve the PFAR and FOFAR ratings or any other suggestions?

 

[funday]

Can some one explain the scoring to me.... I know what the four numbers are but not what they actually mean?

AQR: Academic Qualification Rating, scored 1-9
PFAR: Pilot Flight Aptitude Rating, scored 1-9
FOFAR: Flight Officer Flight Aptitude Rating, scored 1-9
OAR: Officer Aptitude Rating, scored 20-80

Also, in that being answered that should help me determine how to improve the PFAR and FOFAR ratings or any other suggestions?

Answering my own question from ASTB study guide at http://http://www.carolinamarineofficer.com/files/ASTB_Study_Guide.htm

Aviation Supplemental Test
This section is just made up of a variety of questions from each of the preceding five subtests

Scoring:
The scores from the six sections are combined in some manner to produce four scores:
AQR: Academic Qualification Rating, scored 1-9
PFAR: Pilot Flight Aptitude Rating, scored 1-9
FOFAR: Flight Officer Flight Aptitude Rating, scored 1-9
OAR: Officer Aptitude Rating, scored 20-80
The scores that matter for aviation programs are the AQR, and PFAR or FOFAR, depending if you are applying for pilot or flight officer programs. These scores are derived from your performance on all six sections. AQR and FOFAR is biased towards the Math Skills Test; PFAR towards the ANIT and SAT sections. The minimum score as of Spring 2005 is a 4/6 for Marine Corps, but that can change at any time; your OSO will have current information. For Marine Corps purposes, my observation is that the test is essentially pass/fail for purposes of selection for OCS - the rest of your package will determine your selection to OCS, but it's not so competitive that they're comparing ASTB scores. As of Spring 2005, one-point waivers were fairly common.

For non-aviation Naval applicants, the only score that matters is the OAR, derived from the first three section of the exam (highlighted in blue). You will only take those three sections and receive your OAR score.

My finance scored 54/4/4/4... so where should he focus on improvement?

 

[OUSOONER]

Maybe you should do a little more research before you post. You will realize most everything you asked tonight can be found on this site.

You can't tell where exactly he needs to focus on the ASTB given the score. It is on a bell curve compared to his peers that took the test recently.

The test is very cut and dry...he should know what he needs to focus on simply by knowing what is on the test and what his strengths and weaknesses are.

Mine was getting all the simple math done in the time allotted. Once I brushed up on my junior high level physics and kept doing the math problems over and over again...my score drastically improved.

Other's are different..they breeze past the math/physics but get stuck on the Aviation and Spatial Apperception portions. It varies person to person.

 

[SO'Cal]

There are soooo many aircraft in the Navy and Marine Corps. Do I need to know [FONT=&quot]all the different Navy and Marine Corps jet and helo types and purposes?

If not, Then which ones do I need to memorize?
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[JSnake]

There are soooo many aircraft in the Navy and Marine Corps. Do I need to know [FONT=&quot]all the different Navy and Marine Corps jet and helo types and purposes?

If not, Then which ones do I need to memorize?
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It's not that many, just read it over a few times a day and you'll learn it before you know it. Focus on the ones still in service or recently retired aircrafts. My test didn't have anything specifically about that, but I didn't gamble on it and learned it anyway.

Also, if you learn the lettering system (e.g. H = helo, V = VTOL/STOL, A = attack), it gets a lot easier. That way you can at least discern helos from jets and for what purpose.

 

[SO'Cal]

Do you know of any study guides (for the aviation and nautical info) that are already filled out? I'm spending way too much time finding the answers to questions rather than actually studing and learning this stuff.

 

[funday]

Do you know of any study guides (for the aviation and nautical info) that are already filled out? I'm spending way too much time finding the answers to questions rather than actually studing and learning this stuff.

I found all this info in the previous 31 pages or on this site for aviation and nautical info...
There are some study guides, but the Barron's MFAT also provides lessons and the rest of these links found on here.

Thanks everyone for your 32 pages of post and the rest of this great site! Lots of good info....

ASTB Study Guide Web Page (Last updated in 2005)
http://www.carolinamarineofficer.com/files/ASTB_Study_Guide.htm

ACRO Military Flight Aptitude Book
http://www.petersons.com/pdfsecure/frameNoTop.asp?pdftype=MasterMilitaryFlight

Marine Gouge Wiki
(The old one has been blocked... check this one out though)
http://marinegouge.com/mediawiki-1.13.3/?title=Main_Page

Navy Gouge
http://www.navygouge.com/

Navy Officer (Look under aviation for severel websites that help if you have never flown before)
http://www.navy-officer.com/astb.html

Pilot's Handbook of Aeronautical Knowledge
http://www.faa.gov/library/manuals/aviation/pilot_handbook/

Lingo
http://www.tailhook.org/AVSLANG.htm

Boats
http://www.boat-ed.com/wa/course/p1-3_boatparts.htm

Planes
http://www.boat-ed.com/wa/course/p1-3_boatparts.htm


find the following at http://www.airwarriors.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5804
AVIATION.pdf (166.3 KB, 70 views)
ASTBGouge.pdf (474.9 KB, 52 views)
NAVY Study.doc (170.0 KB, 88 views)
ASTB Study Info.doc (29.5 KB, 65 views)

 

[JSnake]

Do you know of any study guides (for the aviation and nautical info) that are already filled out? I'm spending way too much time finding the answers to questions rather than actually studing and learning this stuff.

I'm not trying to be a jerk here, but there's no advantage to taking the easy way out. The point of studying is so you learn the materials and most importantly the concepts. Reading an already filled out study guide will give you diluted information at best, understanding the concepts for the test is far more important.

If you're going to study, don't half-a$$ it. Go the whole nine yards and earn the scores you want to get.

What I did to study to get 9/9/9 72, I downloaded the FAA handbook and went through every section the gouge/study guide referred to and said I should be familiar with. There is nothing wrong with reading an already-filled out guide to supplement your studies, but doing so with that attitude and because you're too lazy to do so yourself will buy you a ticket straight to non-select.

With that said, http://www.navy-officer.com/ has some very good resources under the ASTB section. I think it even has an already filled out guide you were looking for, as well as multiple practice resources you can use to hone your OAR sections.

 

[ea6bflyr]

Snake is correct. There is no

for the ASTB. If there was, EVERYONE would be a Pilot or NFO.

There's a boat load of gouge on this site and others, as funday has clearly shown. Take the studying and the test as serious as your desires to earn your wings.

The ASTB is just the beginning. Ask ANYONE in flight school and they will tell you it's like drinking from a fire hose everyday. Learn, practice and execute.

-ea6bflyr

 

[Max_Power]

Just took it...

7/7/6, 59 OAR

Felt the spatial app was more difficult than all the study guides, but still pretty easy. My supplemental (?) was all Aviation questions. I finished every section with more than enough time left, maybe I should've checked some answers..

Anyway, good luck all. Use everything on this site, it all helped.

 

[Ken_gone_flying]

Those are solid scores, nice work. Is that a banana riding a green Llama?

 

[Max_Power]

I am certain that getting the gouge, encouragement and motivation from AW is responsible for the test scores we see now. I would venture to guess that the average score of an AW member is much higher then the average score of someone who has never been here.

I can personally attest to this. I would not have done as well as I did without AW, and I still feel like I could have done better. Thank you to everyone for the gouge and all the advice. Hopefully my package gets picked up!