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Satisfied? In what context?

But everyone will be able to go horseback riding, play tennis, go swimming ...

Yes, it doesn't seem like it was extraordinary flying or decision making (as opposed to the Sioux City landing, for instance).

So the problem is a lack of male self-control? What about if there happened to be a majority of gay men on a ship? (It will eventually happen.)

Based on the links some of you have provided, it sounds like the majority of the controlled ditchings have gone smoothly.

That logic is no longer valid, though, if gays are allowed to serve openly. There should be no issues, because women and men should be able to berth together.

Great movie!

I retired 12 years ago, so was in during roughly the same period as you. I served with a number of people, some officer, some enlisted, who were pretty obviously gay, although they did not make verbal public statements to that effect. I roomed with someone for awhile that I suspected was gay...

"When the heat is on someone else, it's not on you" AKA "Thank God for shit screens."

We called in "JOLA" (JO Liberation Army) in my first squadron.

You might want to re-think your attitude. The success or failure of gays in the military, no matter what the specifics of the policy are, depends primarily on their acceptance by those who currently have questions about the wisdom of that decision. And your snottiness is not helping at all.

That figure has been "de-bunked" - it originated with some poorly worded questions on the surveys that were used for the Kinsey report. The generally accepted figure now is that 2-5% of the population is gay. But I don't know about the "mindset and culture" keeping them from joining; I have read...

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Yes, judgment/common sense is a very important part of leadership. You can't put someone on report every time they do something wrong. (There might even be an aviator or two here who hasn't followed all the altitude/airspeed/airspace restrictions quite to the letter on every flight.)

I know what that's like. I seemed to always get stuck with the crappy landings!

How many ditchings under similar circumstances - engine failure at a high enough altitude and with enough airspeed so that the crew had time to analyze and decide where to go, followed by a smooth water surface to land on, and (judging from the water surface as shown on the news last night) not...

"Totally disagree; aviation history is littered with airplane pieces and human corpses due to various f-ups by the crews." That's not the question. The question is would most (i.e. more than half) of crews at this level of flying handle that situation at that level of skill.

Is it reasonable for a heterosexual to feel uncomfortable when in close quarters (i.e. roommates on deployment, next bunk over, common shower rooms/restrooms) with a homosexual of the same gender? Personally, I believe that this falls into the same category as whether it would be reasonable...

"15 miles for every 1000' altitude" Probably a mistaken interpretation of 15:1

That's already available via selective abortions.

BTW, this assumes that the decision to land in the river was the correct one. Once that decsion has been made, for good or bad, then landing in the river was the only option. Just fly the profile, which would be something they have done in the simulator.

"Why is it that the Israelis are to blame for the BBC" Because most of the Israelis are Jews.

"Don't take away from what these guys did because what they did was truly a great event in aviation." That's not taking anything away from how well they performed; I just think that most crews would probably have done as good of a job.

Seems to me like this crew did their job, but probably did no better than the great majority of crews would do.

Isn't it heartwarming when someone overcomes a bad background and still makes something of their life?

It was about a 2:1 or 3:1 glide ratio in the H-3.

"but that does not mean that most of their reporting is not factual" Just because everything they present is factual does not mean that they present an accurate picture. And over the years, they have consistently presented an inaccurate picture of the military actions that have been takn by...

"In the last 2 years, the full auto training has come into great use in the HTs" That was a big part of the program back in the "olden days (81-82)." We did full autos in HT-8 (in the 57), but not in HT-18 (UH-1D).

OU, "Yet we give so much credibility to reporters who are only embedded with our forces." I give more credibility to news sources who have earned more credibility. And after all the bogus claims of Israeli atrocities over the years from the Palestinians, that are reported as Gospel (pun...

^^^ "their coverage of the Israeli invasion into Gaza has been largely one-sided with a focus on Palestinian casualties, but that does not mean that what they do report is inaccurate. " Oxymoron. If what they report gives an inaccurate picture, because of what they leave out/choose to...

If someone comes in directly from the enlisted ranks, they have to complete their enlistment if they leave the program. (That happened to a couple of my classmates at USNA.)

Do you they still do full autos in the HTs?

"Granted this is from Al Jazeera...but it's much more credible than our news agencies. " Hardly.

I found that daydreaming while running every day improved my PRT times.

^^^ Good summary.

Does the nose tuck? How about with blade stall?

For H-3s: A lot depends on whether it is a complete failure of the tail rotor, or just a failure of the tail rotor controls. If the controls are "jammed", you have to work around the pitch the tail rotor is set at when the problem occurs. If in a hover, you land (with a slight rotation as...

They are educated in schools that don't show the nation of Israel on the maps. Their religious leadership and much of their political leadership, as well as the state-run media organizations, proclaim the hatred of the Jews, the desire for the annihilation of Israel, and the glorification of...

Well, since one side has consistently proclaimed it's goal to eradicate the other side (with a recent history to prove it's intentions), it's pretty hard to agree with your statement.

Wolverines!!!

No kidding! I thought I recognized the Mock-86!

Those AUTEC dets were great!

The guy with the hat on?

"some guys like to wear women's underwear," There's probably a thread for that, in the "flying hook-up" section.

Are you from the Denver area? I did the same thing in Primary - flew into Buckley. Is that still open?

Were you able to fly with any of the WWII vets in your early years?

Especially the torpedo bombers. "I'll fly low, slow, and straight right towards the biggest ship out there ..."

"I don't like being associated with people who have that mentality, much less flying with them. " Unless things have changed dramatically since 81-82, that is a wildly inaccurate statement. Generally primary grades were determined by whether or not someone caught on quickly (which is not...

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Not that familiar with the 249, but the "pretty unreliable" part seems to make that statement an oxymoron.