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Most likely he'll get to call on Friday night if his class secures. Someone else chime in if that's changed.

But every once in a while, a Preappointee comes along...

Meetings? That's weird, I was DEP and I had ZERO obligations before OCS started.

Can't say anything for shore duty, but for sea duty it all depends on the command. At one point we were going 4 day weeks after we got back from deployment, that lasted a lot longer than anyone thought possible. Now we're in the middle of workups and things are a little busier, so it evens out.

I think Harriers are in Yuma as well

Right. You'll find out where you're going before you're done with OCS. If you contacted him now, he probably wouldn't be able to give you a straight answer. Since your OCS date is in November, you'll probably be in the March AMO class, giving you a grad date in May. That's what the detailer...

I don't see any point in talking to the detailer before OCS. You'll get to talk to him around week 9 or so (it got us out of another classes parade). There's a CDR who details 0-5 and below, and a CAPT who details the CAPTs, so basically, there's only one detailer to deal with.

I would try to set one up anyway, I mean, what have you got to lose?

Who told you? I know it may be a little different for lat transfers, but you can be sure I included my interview with the CEC Accessions O in my package.

Let's put it this way: The US Navy's and the USMC's aircraft are owned by the same organization, whether it be the US Navy or DON.

Here's a fun fact: The Navy owns all the Marines' aircraft. That might have something to do with the overall budget.

Heh, I'm O-1 with less than 2 years and you make more than me! ha ha. Another thing to note about BDCP is that it's mainly for people who decide to join the Navy after you start college. If you decide in high school to go, a ROTC scholarship is a good way to get a top notch education at UCLA...

I would go ROTC. If you do what you're proposing, you would put up with ROTC stuff for 2 years, then have to go to OCS. Minimize your pain. Also, you've already been accepted, so if you don't try to kill someone in college, you should earn your commission. The only upside I see to doing...

I'm going to add some fuel to the fire: If all the enlisted guys go through the same boot camp, how come some are top performers, while others are complete sh!t bags? It's up to the individual. Instead of comparing guys from different sources of commission, compare guys from the same one...

Could you make them bigger? I can't quite make out who's in the cockpit. ;)

I don't know the exact numbers, but I'm pretty sure that the USMC has higher minimums.

You'll be asked things during inspections like "What's the fourth general order of a sentry?" "What's the second article of the code of conduct?" "Who's the 12th person in your chain of command?" You'll never be asked to recite it all in a row.

Cruise Patches Here are a couple of cruise patches the ad-wizards at VAQ-138 whipped up:

Getting a Masters sounds like a decent idea. Remember, you can apply for a pilot slot while still in grad school (I think you may even be able to do BDCP, because I guy in my class did BDCP CEC while he was in grad school). Naval Postgrad spots are few and far between (depending on the...

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I didn't go to church until after 4th week, because I decided to use that time to prepare for RLP. Sunday is pretty much the only day that the staff isn't there, so you can relax a bit on Sundays. The only DI that's there is the one that has an incoming class, and he'll be busy observing them.

Man, this thread is getting almost as bad as those ROTC vs. USNA threads.

That's a good point. Anyone who tells you that, is to some degree, full of crap. When your department head can say to you "Can this wait? I have to brief in a few minutes" he's clearly an aviator first, with his ground job coming in second.

Ha Ha! Nice one, hey zab, give me some rep points for being a fellow Penn Stater. ;-)

Hey, we're not knocking you guys for taking advantage, we're simply green with envy. Enjoy the leave when you get commissioned.

You'd be surprised. We had a guy roll into our class because he couldn't pass the In-prt push-ups, we had a girl who didn't get pass the IN-prt and rolled into our class 5-weeks later (we were on day 3, she was on 5 weeks and day 3) because she couldn't run. Oh, and to top it off, when we were...

You're not worth my time Good luck getting into the Navy

Don't forget, that when these jokers are commissioned they have 30-60 days of leave already in the books. (Bitter guy who went straight to OCS)

My point is I clearly stated the eligibility guidelines, then I have a pre-appointee come in and make a FALSE statement, which is a good example of all the bad gouge spread on this site. Schools don't have people that know nothing else but eligibility guidelines, the best people to ask would be...

The out standard is Excellent Low. However, if you can get Outstanding High, by all means do so. I don't know what recruiter thinks you need to show up in that shape, but it's not uncommon that people reach that for the out-prt. Also, if enough people in your class get Excellent Medium (I...

You said finances were a problem, but I would look into financial aid and go to Med School right away (without the Navy's program). Since Med school is 4 years long, and you say that citizenship is 3 years away, you could become a citizen during Med school and then talk to an officer recruiter...

There's always going to be a couple of people who show up out of shape. Having the big 4 memorized isn't required, because you'll get it beat into your head while you're there. But when people show up out of shape it wants to make you just shake your head in disgust (one girl rolled into our...

Ripptyde003, I'm putting a package together and applying for CEC xfer in November. I'm very interested in the seabees, and am curious as to what they do when not deployed. Also, they tell us that we're on a 18 month/6 month home/deployment sked, but that doesn't include all the annoying...

Hector - Who else can off Achilles' cousin, then tell Odysseus "That's enough for today."

Nope, like I stated above, you have 5 years to use your 4 years of eligibility. Nothing complex about it. That's why most football players redshirt their first year, so they can get bigger and stronger, and then play for 4 years.

You can go before securing. Try not to eat too many doughnuts

Another thing with USNR and USN, since your obligated 8 years, 4 active four reserve, it's easier for the Navy to have all new officers as USNR and then if they decide to get out after 4 years, hey, they're already in the reserves. Another big difference between URL and RL and Staff Corps, is...

Not to mention that you won't be able to play soccer your first year at the academy because NCAA rules require you to sit out a year when transferring between schools of the same Division. You have 5 years to use 4 years of eligibility (which is why guys can "redshirt" and then play 4 years)...

If you're asking if you can sell your leave, the answer is no (not unless you're getting out of the navy, which is a bad deal anyway, because if you sell 30 days of leave, you'll get one months base pay, if you take 30 days of leave, you'll get a month's base pay, BAH, and BAS). For BDCP, you...

Unless you're in a position where you can't use leave (i.e. deployed to the middle east), I think you'll stop accumulating leave. Check your LES every now and then to see how much you have on the books.

you can accumulate up to 60 days of leave before you get into a "use it or lose it" status

CVW-9 has a Marine Colonel set to take over as DCAG soon (if not already)

looks like I know where to send my hate mail...

Our XO brought his on a 3-week det. I'd say bring it if you want, but keep in mind, the more you onload, the more you offload (especially on cruise, because you'll have bought a lot of stuff in ports).

3.6-3.8 in engineering is not the norm. I had a 3.1 in ME. In fact, most of the guys aren't engineers. I wouldn't worry about it. Our class had a the usual amount of Sci/Engineering degrees, but we also had a bunch of History/Business/Poli Sci. Don't psych yourself out, 3.5 in EE is more...

Are you going through OCS, or were you a ROTC guy? If you're going to OCS, there's bound to be another sub nuke guy going to Nuke school the same time, so you could talk about it during OCS.

planejane, the "dream sheet" doesn't exist for the AMDO community because it's so small. Timing is everything, since there are only 1 AMDOs in non-hornet squadrons, and 2 in hornet squadrons, you have to see who's leaving. You'll sit down with the detailer at OCS and they'll tell you what...

You're going to have to be more specific. Depending on the severity, you could be med down, and continue with your class, or you'll roll into GTX until you get healthy, or if it's minor, you can tough it out. My best advice is to show up in good enough shape that you can get excellent low by...

Falcon, They always need sub nukes through OCS. With your credentials, you shouldn't have any problem screening for the interview. Once you get the interview, it's yours to lose. Talk to a recruiter during your sophomore year. Also, I would consider going to grad school as a commissioned...