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Anthropometric issues (are you too big or even too small or...)

fc2spyguy

loving my warm and comfy 214 blanket
pilot
Contributor
Just checked my sheet and the limit is 38.99 in for sitting height.

That's wrong, I can tell you that. I'm not basing it on gouge either. Really it doesnt matter. The numbers either work, or they don't. If they don't the guy in the program has ZERO fudge factor and will not allow remeasurements, unless you have an O-6 saying that it's going to happen. Also, I've noticed that for the majority of the people, the numbers they get at a local BMC are usually larger than the numbers measured by the "gold standard" at bldg 633 on NASP.
 

insanebikerboy

Internet killed the television star
pilot
None
Contributor
tyga00 said:
Just curious. I read somewhere that it was 204 pounds. I thought that there's no way that was right, but maybe?

Thanks

Depends on the version of ejection seat they have installed. I don't know the specific model of seat, but the earlier -18's had the lighter body weights and that number you quoted sounds about right. If I remember correctly I think the newer seats, in the newer aircraft, have a body weight in the range of 225-235. If you're heavier than that you have to sign a waiver saying you acknowledge you're over the design weight limit and a 0-0 ejection (ejecting while sitting on the deck) may not let you get high enough for the parachute to deploy.
 

Tickle

Member
Another weird thing that baffles me....

You pretty much have to be a troll to be an EA6B pilot. Why are all ECMO's 6'4" and 250+lbs? I've never ever seen a small ECMO or small hornet WSO. THe pilots for those planes have to be small though.

A big issue for the Prowler is your reach for an ECMO. ECMO1 (front right seat) sits further back from the console than the pilot. We had a NFO get yanked from Prowlers at the FRS after being measured again. Besides, we love our spacious room in the Prowler. We're like a flying SUV!
 

mwardakpsi

Get money, get paid!!!
None
I used to measure for anthro in my API stash job, as well as analyze and input the data for final restriction determinations.

There are a few things I can tell you based on being used as a slave for my boss to realign the program, so that fewer measurements were required.

1. Most places measure incorrectly. The guys at the BMC's where candidates are measured are trying to get you out of there over doing it the right way. You think you have great results going into API, but then they see numbers that do not add up, and will require that you get remeasured. This will usually make you re-eligible for that platform you don't want (Had it been an inch or two shorter they would have been on the no helo program usually). When you are measured, be sure that your shoulder is all the way against the back of the chair for functional reach, and that you do not wear shoes with a large sole. Those were two of the reasons the data was skewed.

2. NOMI did not allow single pipeline students when I was in the office. That means that you have to be eligible for two of the three choices (PROP, HELO, JET). If you were restricted from two, you were dropped from pilot and sent NFO, or dropped from NFO to be sent to the DDG.

3. Measurements were determined by a web site "available only" to the aviation physiology community. Your numbers were input, and it spit out a list of things you couldn't fly, and saved your record for future reference. The reason you don't find out what you are restricted from until API, is that API staff are the first people you will come across in your flight career that have access to this site.

4. Weight measurements are for the ejection seat. If you are too light or too heavy, you may not come out of an ejection in the greatest shape. People don't know that waivers can be signed for this in some cases.

Any of these could have changed by now, but it should give an idea to how these guys work/think.
 

MIDNJAC

is clara ship
pilot
Out of curiousity, when in API do you find out about anthros? I'm in week 3 and still haven't heard a peep. Does this mean there weren't any restrictions?
 

MasterBates

Well-Known Member
I found out about my restrictions just under 7 years after NAMI. (we used to go during OCS)

There are questions you would rather not ask.
 

fc2spyguy

loving my warm and comfy 214 blanket
pilot
Contributor
Out of curiousity, when in API do you find out about anthros? I'm in week 3 and still haven't heard a peep. Does this mean there weren't any restrictions?

No, it means that you are available for at least two pipelines. They won't mention anything about anthros to you until later, unless you're completely anthro'd out of the program, meaning you don't qualify for at least two separate a/c pipelines.
 

Ektar

Brewing Pilot
pilot
When I was in A-Pool (July 07) they were handing out the Anthro sheets to everyone, not just those people who were limited, that had your results. That's how I found out about my restrictions. If you really want to know, you can go ask the NASC physiologist for your results. I'm sure he/she or one of the stashed Ensigns can pull them up for you.
 

Gatordev

Well-Known Member
pilot
Site Admin
Contributor
When I was in A-Pool (July 07) they were handing out the Anthro sheets to everyone, not just those people who were limited, that had your results. That's how I found out about my restrictions. If you really want to know, you can go ask the NASC physiologist for your results. I'm sure he/she or one of the stashed Ensigns can pull them up for you.

It's also in your training jacket which, if you don't have access to it in API, you'll be knee deep in it during Primary.
 

othKP2010

New Member
Maximum allowable height

I'm a Middie and I just got back from a summer crusie with VFC-111 down in Key West. The pilots there are awesome guys and they showed me a really good time. There an advesary squadron so the fly the F-5. I got a back seat ride in the F-5 and also got to ride co-pilot in a Seahawk assigned to the bases SAR squadron. I'm 6'5" and although I fit in the F-5 I'm concerned that if I go flight after graduation I might be too big for Hornets or that the height limits may become more stringent since I would actully be going through flight training. I was told that the max allowable for a SNA is 77" but what really matters is the sitting height. I was wondering if anyone kows any more about this or if they knew any hornet pilots who were my size.
 
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