Like I said, woke and progressive. You fellas take it from here . . .
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How is that appropriate in any ward room?
Or mine.
As is clearly indicated on the patch, it was designed in 1994 (still in the wake of Tailhook) and reflects the anger of the squadron members over the disestablishment of their squadron (and maybe the belief that the act was related to tailhook). Reflected in contemporary morality it is certainly not appropriate and I’m not sure if it ever made it to any flightsuit or jacket.
In the end, however, it is an artifact of a different time and should be viewed as such. If something similar were to arise today it run afoul of new regulations like the one mentioned here...https://www.military.com/daily-news/2021/01/08/air-force-brass-order-removal-of-all-offensive-non-inclusive-patches-mottos-and-emblems.html
I think nearly everybody here can fit that patch into its place in history, understand the context, and move on.
If the patch gets posted with "TRIGGER WARNING FOR WOKEHEADS" and all that typical messaging, we're talking about a different, contemporary topic
I'm confident of two realities when I'm much older:
- Some things I said or did as a youngin' will be utterly unacceptable in that new era
- I will, despite my best efforts, be behind the technology curve
I’ll use this opportunity to pivot, and say the Selective Service System needs to go away - or encompass everyone aged 18-55 who resides in the US regardless of sex, color, ability, or citizenship status. If you want to live here, you’re draft-able. I say we fight the next world war with everyone we’ve got available. (And expand the draft-able jobs to be far more than just the military.)
I'd argue that if a huge war broke out most Americans would have a hard time with their daughters being drafted into the military, especially into infantry.
The question is whether it's inappropriate according to your own values as a human being and as a leader? What do you think about it?
Too bad - all military jobs are open, regardless of gender. Now, you don’t get drafted into a specific MOS, so that is moot.
If I was king for a day, the draft would become more than just military, recognizing that we would need people to fill jobs in a number of government or industry roles as well, and also, that some people just aren’t cut out for the military.
I haven't done any reading on this, but I may dig around. In the blind, I'm inclined to agree. Seems like a natural step forward for the military that aligns with society's forward motion. I'll be a little surprised if I find that a majority of women today disagree with women being eligible (excepting people who take issue with a draft entirely).
LT Brett from the early days of AW (before he “grew up” as he called it in the Mod forum when confronted about his “transition”) would have laughed at that patch and posted something similar. After all, I was a Mod back then and remember quite well how many of his posts pissed off the wives and was a major topic of discussion in the then popular spouses forum.
Also, people, especially senior officers, who routinely pompously lecture and belittle other posters shouldn’t be talking about values or leaders. Using “big words” in an attempt to show their own superiority doesn’t make it acceptable either.
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Only time will tell if women will be included in the draft. If I was a betting man I'd say many Americans will fight hard against it. A line will eventually have to be drawn. This issue could cause a lot more division amongst Americans.
I don’t see it as a big deal. You get drafted to a service, and that service finds a place for you. The smart thing to do would be evaluate incoming personnel during/after boot camp, and place them appropriately into the career field where they’d be most useful.
Plus, if anyone thinks the WW3 ratio of infantry-to-support personnel will be identical to WW1, WW2, or Vietnam, then they aren’t seeing the same strategy docs I am. We’re gonna need at least three times more drone operators and cyber experts as we did back then.