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And the PRT changes yet again

squorch2

he will die without safety brief
pilot
I'd still practice pushups + planking to see what it felt like. but yea, hitting GL mins here isn't hard.

Lots of verbiage in the guide on hands during the plank - not sure what that's about.

ETA: they finally codified the "3 strikes and you're out" rule - used to be event end was VERY specific and tied to an action like touching the deck or raising hands/feet, not CFL/ACFL discretion. big hmmm there
 

picklesuit

Dirty Hinge
pilot
Contributor
I'd still practice pushups + planking to see what it felt like. but yea, hitting GL mins here isn't hard.

Lots of verbiage in the guide on hands during the plank - not sure what that's about.

ETA: they finally codified the "3 strikes and you're out" rule - used to be event end was VERY specific and tied to an action like touching the deck or raising hands/feet, not CFL/ACFL discretion. big hmmm there
In 17 years of doing PRT’s, I’ve only actually seen form breaks used to stop the exercise once (outside of training commands like RTC and OCS).

CFL’s on the Truman had an overly gung-ho leader and they were making some sort of statement resulting in a 15%+ failure rate. Dudes lifting off the bike seat to reposition and even a couple sloppy push-ups got you stopped.

Being a member of Shooter nation has its benefits, we had the Air Department CFL’s arrange a “friendly” PRT where they did like we always do...ignore the shitty form, make fun of each other, and get it over with.

I can’t stand PRT MOTARDs that think they will make themselves look better by calling out other people. Nobody cares how fit you are when you can’t do your primary job, you triple-pinned collateral junkie.
 

nittany03

Recovering NFO. Herder of Programmers.
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In 17 years of doing PRT’s, I’ve only actually seen form breaks used to stop the exercise once (outside of training commands like RTC and OCS).

CFL’s on the Truman had an overly gung-ho leader and they were making some sort of statement resulting in a 15%+ failure rate. Dudes lifting off the bike seat to reposition and even a couple sloppy push-ups got you stopped.
I had a wing physiologist tell me once that when the Navy was setting PRT standards for the exercises in use at the time (2009 timeframe), they had one group of people figuring out acceptable form. Another group of people ran a statistical analysis of Fleet scores, and then set the cutoffs to what was deemed an appropriate failure rate of whatever percent. No one checked to see whether the scores they were running numbers on actually came from people using appropriate form (narrator voice: They didn't).

Total RUMINT, and I can't verify it's true, but it sure sounds like something BUPERS would do.
 

squorch2

he will die without safety brief
pilot
CFL’s on the Truman had an overly gung-ho leader and they were making some sort of statement resulting in a 15%+ failure rate. Dudes lifting off the bike seat to reposition and even a couple sloppy push-ups got you stopped.
They were similarly enthusiastic 2012-2014.

they also didn’t know to round up from .1” over when determining height.

or that there were tightly defined stop criteria.

I ran the PRT with my division (so, 3x) and always had the guide with me cause this is the one thing that will screw people over quickly.
 

Farva01

BKR
pilot
I had a wing physiologist tell me once that when the Navy was setting PRT standards for the exercises in use at the time (2009 timeframe), they had one group of people figuring out acceptable form. Another group of people ran a statistical analysis of Fleet scores, and then set the cutoffs to what was deemed an appropriate failure rate of whatever percent. No one checked to see whether the scores they were running numbers on actually came from people using appropriate form (narrator voice: They didn't).

Total RUMINT, and I can't verify it's true, but it sure sounds like something BUPERS would do.
Lack of push-up standards infuriates me every year. The shoe under the chest work was a fine standard at the boat school.
 

Spekkio

He bowls overhand.
If you can't plank for 1+20 for a GL, I don't know what we can call you.
The good low is around 2 min for most people of service age. Probationary is just over a minute. I suspect this is actually going to wreck a lot of sailors' days if they don't practice...can't cheat on the planks as much as situps, it's done after pushups, and according to the instruction the moment your head dips down you're done.

But I have a more important question...

Who in this world reps 3:45 planks (the max score)? Never seen this in a gym. The people I see doing them hold for 1-2 minutes.
 
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Farva01

BKR
pilot
The good low is around 2 min for most people of service age. But I have a more important question...

Who in this world reps 3:45 planks (the max score)? Never seen this in a gym.
I did the 4:20 max for the mock USNA PRT a couple months ago. It is doable. Then there is this guy...
 
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