This thread is a bit disturbing because it brought up this ad...
I didn't want to click it and find out what a "Real Jock" was...
It's OK, members of Real Jock probably have banners baseops.net or something. It's a vicious cycle.
Get past whatever makes that person different and judge thier character; that should be the only discrimination taking place. Everybody has assholes and everybody has thier all-stars.
I couldn't agree more with that statement. I think the big military is more worried about whether someone will fit into the military mold or be a distraction, something I don't think is a military-only problem. The military needs a certain type of person, plain and simple. Chances are, the gays in the military already fit that mold to a pretty good extent, much like, for the most part, men and women who sign up for the same reason and fulfill their duties equally; however different, or the same, those duties may be. In the grand scheme, they're not being targeted because they're gay. They're being targeted because they act differently (the whole proud in your face to be gay) and keep you from completing your job. The ones who don't integrate seamlessly and nobody gives a hoot what they insert into themselves. Take MB's instance, for example. How much of a distraction was it to be guarding your six 24/7? If the dude treated his gayness like a sixth finger or something, like "oh that's just my sixth finger there's nothing I can do about it let's just forget about it and not bring it up and I won't poke you with it.", then I'm sure there would be no problem. It sounds in poor taste to trivialize it like that, but that's really all it is. Keep your whatever to yourself and fit in so you and everyone else can do the job. The military isn't the same as some job where you can wear a rainbow sweater. If people are distracted, they could get killed.
MB, no disrespect, but...should we then give them their own drinking fountains, seats in the back of the bus, a segregated section of restaurants, and separate schools, too?
It always cracks me up when someone compares an extreme that will never happen to something that happened to a completely different subject in a completely different time. Did you know that the Babylonians could sentence you to death for bad behavior in a bar? Pre-civil rights movement treatments of people were an incredibly wrong action for our country to take. Did we learn from them? Yes, that's what mistakes are for. To compare the two is ludicrous. Especially when the only right gays don't have is the right to get married, and now they can. That's it! They can get the same jobs, paycheck, house, whatever. I don't understand what they're whining about all the time. The only time people think differently about gays are when they hold parades wearing nothing but leather chaps and a dick. I don't want to see it, nobody else wants to see it. THAT'S where intolerance comes from. Half the time it's their own doing. They need to realize that pretty much nobody cares about what they sit on except them.