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Your Mom is a Garbage Shore-Tour

Moc1Sig

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We could actually say more, but that would take away from counting our money and planning how to spend it during the majority of the month when we aren’t working.
HAL, i'm clearly only jealous. As my career choices will prevent me from getting to "THE SHOW" as fast. Back to the Original thread, ^^above^^ is the real reason to not do a ROTC tour, why get a masters when you can make more doing the thing you just studied for the last 8/10 years. Build that total/turbine/IP/fixed wing time if you need it, while remaining current and marketable. I understand not everyone gets a shot at a production tour, thus bust your ass as a JO, and give yourself some options with your paperwork come time to talk to your detailer. If you don't like flying... then I have no useful advice, and you might be on the wrong forum.
 

nittany03

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HAL, i'm clearly only jealous. As my career choices will prevent me from getting to "THE SHOW" as fast. Back to the Original thread, ^^above^^ is the real reason to not do a ROTC tour, why get a masters when you can make more doing the thing you just studied for the last 8/10 years.
You do realize how douchey it is to assume that your life choices are the only valid life choices for an aviator post-Navy, right? Especially when you imply that everyone who doesn't go to the so-called "show" allegedly doesn't like flying? I'll be sure to tell that to all the gold-winged people I meet crushing it in other sectors of the economy . . .
If you don't like flying... then I have no useful advice, and you might be on the wrong forum.
One part of this sentence is accurate, at least.
 

scoolbubba

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We could actually say more, but that would take away from counting our money and planning how to spend it during the majority of the month when we aren’t working.
I'm back on ADT orders. What do you mean I only get 2 days off a week? What kind of fuckery is this?!

There's so many good ideas floating around here that I'm pretty #triggered. The good news is I can tell the good idea fairies "Fuck you bro, I'm just a reservist."

My rugrat had better appreciate this goddamn GI Bill.
 

wink

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Great. That'll work out well for all parties interested.

Conditions are very different on the peninsula than on the mainland, than on the islands, than in north sound, than in south sound. To point to the Olympic peninsula and hold that up as a symbol of PACNW weather is foolish. Death Valley is hot(!), CA must be the worst!
Well no shit. But we weren't talking about Spokane or Bend were we? I am aware of the rain shadow effect and the variations in climate in the greater northwest of Washington and coastal Oregon. Been all around. Seattle, Everett, Portland, Bremerton, Bangor, all run around 36 inches of rain a year. Tacoma, 41. Southern part of Whidbey gets more than further north. Oak Harbor logs about 20 inches a year, similar to Port Angeles and Port Townsend across the bay while down south of Whidbey Island 37 inches. I used to laugh when The A-6 dudes would brag about having more VFR flying days at Whidbey then any other NAS. It was only because they had so many days that were 3000 overcast 3 miles rain or not. Quick Google search revealed that for all the above, rain shadow or not, you are getting about 40% of the days a year sunny. The average in the USA is nearly 60%. Where I live we have about 80% sunny days.

I wasn't being foolish. I was generalizing, pretty fairly, about the specific region we were talking about. If you love it, great. No need to defend your preferred basing. I stipulated it is beautiful. There are simply too many gloomy wet days to suit me. It is frustrating for me not to get to out and enjoy the beauty because of weather. Sure, some folks just dress for it and don't mind. Me, I'd rather dress down and put up with the heat.
 

zippy

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You do realize how douchey it is to assume that your life choices are the only valid life choices for an aviator post-Navy, right? Especially when you imply that everyone who doesn't go to the so-called "show" allegedly doesn't like flying? I'll be sure to tell that to all the gold-winged people I meet crushing it in other sectors of the economy . . .
One part of this sentence is accurate, at least.
From what I’ve seen in the last several years, it’s not that folks who leave military aviation and don’t go to the airlines don’t like flying. It’s that the military ruined being a professional aviator for them.
 

nittany03

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From what I’ve seen in the last several years, it’s not that folks who leave military aviation and don’t go to the airlines don’t like flying. It’s that the military ruined being a professional aviator for them.
For me, it was not having enough hours to go to a mainline carrier without doing time in regional purgatory. My starting salary in the tech sector was basically double what I could have expected at a regional, and my company is not known for paying well, relatively speaking. But I’ve kept getting raises since. I think I’ll do alright.

Plus, there’s mental challenges in my job that are more fun to solve than just doing yet another AIRNAV, especially for regional peanuts. I could have done that when I graduated Primary. Lastly, my career doesn’t depend on the whim of some doctor every 6 months. I’ll freely admit for that last that a year-long trip through NAMI waiver hell jaded me, so take that FWIW.
 

zippy

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For me, it was not having enough hours to go to a mainline carrier without doing time in regional purgatory. My starting salary in the tech sector was basically double what I could have expected at a regional, and my company is not known for paying well, relatively speaking. But I’ve kept getting raises since. I think I’ll do alright.

Plus, there’s mental challenges in my job that are more fun to solve than just doing yet another AIRNAV, especially for regional peanuts. I could have done that when I graduated Primary. Lastly, my career doesn’t depend on the whim of some doctor every 6 months. I’ll freely admit for that last that a year-long trip through NAMI waiver hell jaded me, so take that FWIW.
Might be more common on the east coast because D.C. is only a short drive away, but folks move back and forth from the regionals to govt contracting all the time trying to find their niche.

I’ve flown with a few this past year that left govt contracting/tech to fly again once the regionals started paying more (last dude I flew with worked making drugs before the company he partially owned got bought out by big pharma and he retired at 30 and got bored... know another dude who left an IC job for a regional in Sep 2017 and just got his first type at United). Some of those keep their fingers in their former pot with their own businesses. I also know regional pilots who are resigning to take $100k-150k management jobs in industry.

If you’re happy where you are, great. If you ever get the itch to fly again professionally you’ve got plenty of options (airline and otherwise if you’ve got a clearance). If you’re worried about the med BS know that FAA class 1 and NAMI processes are night and day different. I know guys who med DQ’d from NAMI for issues that have zero problems holding an FAA 1st class medical.
 

nittany03

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Might be more common on the east coast because D.C. is only a short drive away, but folks move back and forth from the regionals to govt contracting all the time trying to find their niche.

I’ve flown with a few this past year that left govt contracting/tech to fly again once the regionals started paying more (last dude I flew with worked making drugs before the company he partially owned got bought out by big pharma and he retired at 30 and got bored... know another dude who left an IC job for a regional in Sep 2017 and just got his first type at United). Some of those keep their fingers in their former pot with their own businesses. I also know regional pilots who are resigning to take $100k-150k management jobs in industry.

If you’re happy where you are, great. If you ever get the itch to fly again professionally you’ve got plenty of options (airline and otherwise if you’ve got a clearance). If you’re worried about the med BS know that FAA class 1 and NAMI processes are night and day different. I know guys who med DQ’d from NAMI for issues that have zero problems holding an FAA 1st class medical.
Life’s cool now, but haven’t ruled it out completely; if you want to hear God laugh, tell Him your plans . . .
 
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