Who gets the T-6 Texan II first?

[HH-60H]

It means that at North Whiting, departures are usually initiated from mid-field intersection, Landings made to approach end.

The AF, when joint UPT was in it's evolving stage, looked at the Navy's non centralized approach to course rules and about had a heart attack. They [AF]think we are nuts!

Ahhh, I see. I went to Vance, so I got to use the whole runway.

At AF UPT you are always IFR, even in the "FAM" phase. Out of 100ish hours there, I was VFR maybe 10 hours.

 

[ghost]

At AF UPT you are always IFR, even in the "FAM" phase. Out of 100ish hours there, I was VFR maybe 10 hours.

At Whiting I did not file IFR until almost finished with RIs (except for the 3 BI flights in the MOA). My initial RI flights were VFR directly over the NSE class C airspace.

 

[toddb]

Yet they dumped a JET primary trainer and spent all this money making a PROP fly like a jet. Yeesh. Although on the whole "need for beta" issue, is there any other airfield in the world which does split-field ops other than Whiting?

The Canadian's did the same thing, got rid of their CT-114 Tutor's for the Ratheon CT-144 Harvard II (Canadianized version of the Texan II).
Mind you the Tutors are around 40 years old, but it's still one burning instead of one turning.

As a matter of fact these CT-144s aren't even owned by the Canadian Armed Forces, they're Leased from Bombardier Aerospace.

Todd

 

[phrogdriver]

I'm thinking that props are beating out jets due to fuel and life-cycle maintenance costs, not for reasons of flight characteristics.

 

[HH-60H]

You are prob right. About the max you can get out of a Tweet is 1.5hrs per flight.

 

[Fly Navy]

and talking to an AF guy at Randolph - the AF sees no need for beta. He reminded me that the T-6 is primarily designed to teach a single seat jet candidate - just as with the auto trim on the rudders, the the behavior to move th PCL to beta is a uniquely turbo-prob behavior - and not one the AF wanted to teach. So not including Beta on the T-6 made perfect sense to our AF comrades.

Because that's so hard to un-teach. Silly AF. I flew a T-34 and I'm doing just fine on the T-45. I don't ever get the urge to go to Beta and I am quite happy flying with my feet on the floor

 

[brd2881]

Hey, what's the rationale behind shooting these long-winded full arcing TACAN approaches in the training command? Every do that in the real Navy?

Its practice for when you are nordo and need to recover. Since I got a cloud card I have always done vectors to final here in the training command, prior to that though, it was usually the full approaches.

Recover IFR that is.

 

[Pags]

I don't ever get the urge to go to Beta and I am quite happy flying with my feet on the floor

No more mystery spike under the instrument panel that cuts the **** out of your boots?

 

[Fly Navy]

No more mystery spike under the instrument panel that cuts the **** out of your boots?

What?

 

[Brett327]

Its practice for when you are nordo and need to recover. Since I got a cloud card I have always done vectors to final here in the training command, prior to that though, it was usually the full approaches.

Recover IFR that is.

It's called a Case III recovery, something you might want to familiarize yourself with.

Brett

 

[Pags]

What?

you never noticed that the T-34 had an uncanny ability to destroy the toes of boots? I would come back from flights and have chunks missing out of the toes. I had some friends who cut their boots down to the steel toe.

 

[Fly Navy]

you never noticed that the T-34 had an uncanny ability to destroy the toes of boots? I would come back from flights and have chunks missing out of the toes. I had some friends who cut their boots down to the steel toe.

Uh, no, never. I"m 5'10". How tall are you?

 

[Gatordev]

Hey Pags,

You know when you're airborne, you don't need to keep your toes on the brakes. Only when on the ground.

I know people squeeze the black out of the stick and PCL/collective, but I've never heard anyone trying to push the paint off the pedals until their boots fell apart. You sure you weren't on the short, yellow T-34?

 

[phrogpilot73]

Who the hell would want to recover IFR?!? Lower, slower, circumnavigate, land... You mean you guys can't land in a farmer's field and wait it out? Man, I'm glad I'm a helo guy... (Sorry, couldn't resist)

 

[Fly Navy]

Who the hell would want to recover IFR?!? Lower, slower, circumnavigate, land... You mean you guys can't land in a farmer's field and wait it out? Man, I'm glad I'm a helo guy... (Sorry, couldn't resist)

No, but we can climb above most weather...