Let us know when you get to 10 years when you have to change the battery.
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- Thread starter ChuckMK23
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That won't ever happen. The data by Consumer Reports shows battery degradation is mostly relatively insignificant. There was a lot of FUD around EV battery degradation that has turned out never to materialize.
The death of internal combustion engines for consumer and commercial ground transportation (save for recreational and enthusiast use) cannot come soon enough in my opinion. The planet is burning. We are dying. The house is indeed on fire. Thousands of people in Nepal just died because of human generated climate change. Electrification of society through solar, wind, nuclear and battery storage at scale is a moral imperative.
I do think I drive the finest automobile in the world.
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My son and girlfriend came by in her Tesla with the latest self driving software update. I have to admit it was pretty cool. Just sit down, and tell it where you want to go. Nothing to start. No buttons to push, it just heads down the road, goes to the destination and parks. I never once felt like I needed to take over. Still, I'm not ready for an EV.
We have over ten years now of mass produced Teslas on the road now, and over 20 for hybrids, and the much talked about battery degradation has not been anywhere near the issue some scaremongers claimed they are. Tesla Model S/Model X cars only suffered 12% degradation after reaching 200,000 miles, not anywhere needing a replacement. And if you do actually need one there are a lot more options than the original manufacturer options, and those will likely get better as more and more EV's are sold.
Is it worth it even with a battery replacement? Every person is different but for many who opt for an EV or PHEV it can mean significant savings over an ICE-only vehicle.
I don’t see degradation as the issue. They will degrade at some point. The larger question, I feel, is what are we doing with those old batteries. It isn’t exactly the kind of thing you can dump in the landfill or leave the hulk of an old car in a pick and pull lot.
We thought we found the solution to high priced gas, decoupling from outside energy sources, and limit climate impacts. However, no one thought through the cradle to grave problem. The NIBY crowd will eventually pick up on that once they’re done protesting the data center that drives up energy prices and manages the self-driving cars.
We thought we found the solution to high priced gas, decoupling from outside energy sources, and limit climate impacts. However, no one thought through the cradle to grave problem. The NIBY crowd will eventually pick up on that once they’re done protesting the data center that drives up energy prices and manages the self-driving cars.
Closed loop recycling of EV batteries is accelerating - that and the secondary market for battery sub-packs are already economically viable businesses in their own right. The market is addressing the need successfully.
I watched this yesterday and the car is actually an EV that has some appeal for me (independent if it's a car or a cross-over). I know nothing of it's actual endurance, only what is in the video which is mostly a puff/PR piece. But this Lotus seems like a pretty decent hybrid blend. BMW has something similar with the new iX, but watching real world driving videos, the batteries don't seem to really last very long if you do any kind of spirited driving and the engine doesn't seem to be able to charge quickly. Plus you have to deal with BMW's new really annoying interface.
The video also has a cameo of a long time Lotus employee. If you know who he is and why it's relevant to the Hamster (and the other two), it's a nice nod to the audience.
The video also has a cameo of a long time Lotus employee. If you know who he is and why it's relevant to the Hamster (and the other two), it's a nice nod to the audience.
Good to hear, but still not sold based on the word ‘accelerating’.