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Where old planes go when they "die"

KBayDog

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We were set to retire a half-dozen of our 42-44-year old, 12,000+ hour aircraft...but plans changed, and they're all still in service.

Phrogs Phorever!
 

mmx1

Woof!
pilot
Contributor
I heard there was some pre-coordination required for the tour. True? I'm dropping off a C-12 next week and want to see what else is out there.

I took the tour 10 or so years ago on the spur of the moment and it was no problem. That was before 9/11, though.

The guys that handled the induction gave us a tour of the place after all the paperwork was done; didn't seem like any pre-coordination was required and they bent over backwards to help us out.

Pictures:
https://picasaweb.google.com/mark.xue/AMARC?feat=directlink
 

jmcquate

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The F-4E in front of the SAM jet had 5 MiG kills on the splitter vane, Rithchie's? The D-21 was wierd.
 

nittany03

Recovering NFO. Herder of Programmers.
pilot
None
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Interesting to see the REALLY old stuff still hanging around there. P-2s and B-57s?
 

Gatordev

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pilot
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I heard there was some pre-coordination required for the tour. True? I'm dropping off a C-12 next week and want to see what else is out there.

I took the tour 10 or so years ago on the spur of the moment and it was no problem. That was before 9/11, though.

As mmx1 mentioned, they'll probably work it out for you anyway, but I did ask ahead of time if they could give us the tour. I got the "if we don't have other stuff going on..." reply, but when we actually got there, we were about 4 hours late, right before quitting time (see above about non-starting engine) and one of the Chiefs still have us the whole tour. We didn't have quite as much time to fondle all the lost airframes, but he still let us hop out when we wanted and snap look something over...as long as it wasn't the F-4 right next to the guard shack.

I have a pic or two of the oldest aircraft on site, but I still can't get the site to let me upload pics as attachments.
 

PropAddict

Now with even more awesome!
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Interesting to see the REALLY old stuff still hanging around there. P-2s and B-57s?

No kidding. C'mon nobody really expects to have to ever pull old PBY's or P-2V's out of storage in the boneyard. They should start a program where people can pick out a plane, make modest payments on it for a period of 10 years or so, and after that time (if the plane hasn't moved) let you take it home. They'd get more money then the scrap metal values of them and it'd be a way to keep the old warbirds flying.
 

gotta_fly

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pilot
No kidding. C'mon nobody really expects to have to ever pull old PBY's or P-2V's out of storage in the boneyard. They should start a program where people can pick out a plane, make modest payments on it for a period of 10 years or so, and after that time (if the plane hasn't moved) let you take it home. They'd get more money then the scrap metal values of them and it'd be a way to keep the old warbirds flying.

Or maybe make it a part of the new retirement/ incentive plan being discussed in the other thread?

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MasterBates

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Or use it for severance pay..

"You can have 10% of monthly Base Pay times months of service OR you can go to the boneyard and pick any airplane you are rated for"
 

Harrier Dude

Living the dream
Just got back from dropping off a C-12 at the boneyard. Getting the tour ended up being no big deal at all, and basically a de facto part of the process.

There's simply too much to see in a two to three hour tour. I could wander around there for two weeks and not get bored. It's almost overwhelming if you like history and aircraft.

I have a cockpit recce picture for all of you later (if I can figure out how to post it), but most of the aircraft is about what you'd expect, albeit in much higher numbers.

I was astounded by how many P-3s there were. I didn't know we ever had that many, period. Same for T-37s and F-16s. TONS of them. There are also 19 C-5s, which I didn't expect. They take up a ton of space.

I must have flown several dozen of them over the years (T-34, T-2, TA-4J), but the best part was seeing the TA-4J that I CQ'd in back in flight school. I signed it and took a picture.

Awesome experience.
 

Gatordev

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I just can't get the forum software to take my pic, so here's a direct link, if it works... Note the door that neither closes nor opens. Awesome trip.

DSC_0155.jpg
 

RobLyman

- hawk Pilot
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None
Wow. I remember flying those when they had that "new car" smell. Now the first ship I deployed on (CG 51 Thomas S Gates) is in the Philly shipyards and the aircraft are being sent to the boneyard. Kind of weird seeing as I am currently deployed with HH-60Ms that are barely 1-2 years old. Of course they lost their "new car" smell the moment we hit Ft.Hood, TX before deployment.

Any bunos on those? 162113 is the lowest buno Seahawk I flew. I deloyed with 162981, an early block 1 I believe. In contrast, I picked up ser.no. 09-20227 from the factory in February of 2010.
 

blackbart22

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pilot
Back when "our" bone yard was Litchfield Park, as a fresh caught ensign I got to ferry an AD-5Q there from NORIS. As far as equipment, the only requirement was that "all the holes be filled". The UHF and most of the engine instruments worked and little else. It was an IFR (I follow roads) flight as the maintenance guys had swapped all their inoperable junk into the bird.
 

KBayDog

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Just got back from dropping off a C-12 at the boneyard.

I know the new C-12s are being phased in, but are the station C-12s really that old/broken? Or are they just obsolete? I guess I'm just amazed that the old ones are being sent to the boneyard...it seems that in this age of supposed penny-pinching, DoN could strike 'em and sell 'em. (Unless, of course, we're just keeping them prepped for a future, sudden influx of flag officers that need a ride.)

Either way, I know Tucson isn't a good-deal cross-country from Yuma, but did The Bobs give you enough time to at least destroy your liver on campus? Frog & Firkin was always a mandatory check in the box for us...for obvious reasons.
 

Gatordev

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pilot
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Wow. I remember flying those when they had that "new car" smell. Now the first ship I deployed on (CG 51 Thomas S Gates) is in the Philly shipyards and the aircraft are being sent to the boneyard. Kind of weird seeing as I am currently deployed with HH-60Ms that are barely 1-2 years old. Of course they lost their "new car" smell the moment we hit Ft.Hood, TX before deployment.

Any bunos on those? 162113 is the lowest buno Seahawk I flew. I deloyed with 162981, an early block 1 I believe. In contrast, I picked up ser.no. 09-20227 from the factory in February of 2010.

That particular bird in the picture is/was 162136 BUT... it's still a Block 0 that never got modded. -44 owned it for a while before we got it. 162981 must have been one of the first Block Is. I did two cruises as a JO with 162118, but she was a .75 (and is the bird in my avatar).

Fun fact: We still have 161556 in our possession. She's the 9th -60B made and the FIRST production model. She's also the last living -60B that still has the canted wings that everyone reads about in Natops and ignores. She's getting upgraded to a .75...why is more political than anything else, but she'll fly for about a year or so and then go away forever.
 
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