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Interesting. However, I'm sure that is only the airframe/engine itself. The "stuff" we carry now accounts for a great deal of money. In this day and age, if you don't include the sensors to the cost for any recon asset, you've basically purchased a cool trainer that doesn't do much other than convert jet fuel to noise and fun.
Our Class A mishap 2 years ago cost us a full sensor suite. That takes time and lots of $$$ to overcome.

Same for UAVs, cost of air frame can be rivalled if not exceeded by the sensor package costs.
 
It's very physical, and some of the control movements are not "finesse" movements. Add to that a crappy air conditioner, poor visibility, terrible ergonomics, and you've got an aircraft that only a mother could love.

Man, P-3 guys gotta love that thing!

Answer me this, do your flight instruments, radios, etc, tend to change position from plane to plane?
 
They are BOTH good .... Naval Aviation is better. Better for a whole bunch of reasons; possibly GREAT.

Q.E.D.
 
I don't mean to be an a-hole, but your dad is talking out his ass.

I am 6'4" 255# and I fit in the smallest jet we have (T-45)
 
For the USAF (if I remember correctly), the number are 238 lbs, and 6' 5". They're starting to get stricter on those numbers, but I've flown with guys that were probably ~280 lbs,... albeit a few years ago.
 
For the USAF (if I remember correctly)?!?!?!, the number are 238 lbs, and 6' 5". They're starting to get stricter on those numbers, but I've flown with guys that were probably ~280 lbs,... albeit a few years ago.

WTF? We brought you on board (that's like "on board" a ship, a nautical term) to be the expert on the Air Force. You better get your sh!t together. :D:D:D
 
I think the numbers to start Naval Aviator Training without a waiver is 235#. Beyond that, there are ejection seat waivers and such. I BELIEVE but don't KNOW that NFO's have a seat waiver at around 210 due to the the T-2.
 
WTF? We brought you on board (that's like "on board" a ship, a nautical term) to be the expert on the Air Force. You better get sh!t together. :D:D:D
OK, OK, OK!!! I'll start verifying my shizzle before I post. Geeeeezzzz!!

Plus,... don't you know??,.... donuts cause memory loss. :eek:

And, now that I'm "onboard", do I have to "swab the deck,... matey"?
 
I don't mean to be an a-hole, but your dad is talking out his ass.

I am 6'4" 255# and I fit in the smallest jet we have (T-45)

Wow, MB. . . you're a fat ass:D Does the trailer lean and groan when you embark? By the way, the T-45 is spacious compared to the A-4. I am totally average Ht/Wt and I thought the A-4 cockpit was small.
 
.... I am totally average Ht/Wt and I thought the A-4 cockpit was small.
I loved how the Navy always seemed to put the biggest guys in the A-4 and the smallest guys in the F-4/A-6 .... crazy.

The ONLY 'anthro' we ever had was sitting height for the TA-4 vs. the TF-9 ... some marginally height challenged guys would stick newspaper in their U-trou to "heighten" themselves in an attempt to go to the TA-4 vice the TF-9 as a STUD. :D
 
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