You may be right, but this was Caveman's decision alone. Every retired Admiral on Coronado with binoculars lit up the base ops phone lines on this one, I believe.😄
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Promoting from O-1 to O-2
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One of the hardest things to beat out of some young HACs.
This was very helpful, thank you! If NSIPS takes a while to update, am I right in saying that I can look to see if/when my LES shows a higher number to confirm everything is kosher (as Christmas) on the admin side?
Yeppers…in my case it was really bad. We had been out on the SCORE range to drop a REXTORP. Got attack criteria and went in for the drop…and the torp wouldn’t drop. DAMMIT JIM! We RTB’d and Skipper was waiting for me [I was the NFG HAC]…he marshaled us in and everything…and he looked really pissed off. He chewed my ass right there on the ramp…I was still strapped in the bird. We found out later that the AOs had put the wrong CADs on the rack and that’s why the torp didn’t drop. Did I get my ass un-chewed?*** Nope. Oh well…shit happens. 💩
***LATE ENTRY: A NAM would have been nice. A Moonwatch would have been even better.
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Spekkio
He bowls overhand.
I, too, sometimes completely misread tone and throw jabs on the internet /s.
Officer career progression / promotion mechanisms are not "in rate knowledge" for YNs and I've not met any who care to learn the details because they have more important things to do. They will gladly help you filing a report for any pay issues, but they're not full-up-round on all the rules and regulations.
The best resource is to reach out to your detailer at PERS, where they can forward you to the person assigned to actually handle these matters. That person is a commissioned officer.
But you can keep banging your head on the wall at admin if you want to.
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Spekkio
He bowls overhand.
Yes. Your promotion should be reflected on your very next LES.
If it's not, you need to call your detailer at PERS.
Definitely make sure to talk to payroll, and don't ever let the Navy take your stapler.
This assumes the NAVADMIN has been put out by (PERS?) in time too.
That's because it's a PS thing, not a YN thing, and yes, Officer promotions are absolutely in their professional wheelhouse.
This guy Administers.
#thingsihadtobeaDHtounderstand.
There's no guarantee there is a PS at a NRA. If there is, they may be very junior. There was a former AD1 of mine who was working in a Major (O-6 level) NOSC admin. He was an amazing AD, but probably a sub-par YN or PS.
My point is there should be resources available at a NRA, but it doesn't always happen. That's when you hope you have strong leadership within the Reserve unit to deal with the NRA shenanigans.
Walt6541
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Small world moment. Col Holzworth was the MATSG-21 CO when I went through A school in 2006! I distinctly remember his Thanksgiving 96 liberty brief. "We don't act like turkeys! We kill turkeys and we eat them!"
My NRC replied to me and said "Based on what we see in FLTMPS and NSIPS your auto promotion date is 03/07/24". But I'm not convinced that's accurate...
NSIPS shows 02/16/22 for my date of rank. When I look in BUPERS, my OMPF shows 02/16 as my permanent grade date, and NRRM shows 02/16 for my date of rate but "date entered military service" is 03/07. My ETJ says 02/16.
The Naval Register - which I feel like is the single authority for this - shows 02/16.
At this point the date is close enough for me just to shrug and wait it out until 03/07, but to appease my curiosity I would love it if someone could tell me which of these dates is actually authoritative and, ideally, point me to an instruction that answers this question in a definitive fashion.