Promoting from O-1 to O-2

[number9]

Can someone please give me accurate gouge as to how this promotion works in reality? It seems like every person I ask gives me a different version of the process.

Let's say I commissioned directly into the Reserves on 02/16/2022. That means my two-year anniversary would be yesterday, 02/15/2024. Is my promotion effective today, 02/16, or do I need to wait for the first day of March? Do I need my CO (or my NRC's CO) to sign anything to make it legal?

My understanding is that, for O-1 to O-2, it is effective on the two-year anniversary date. If you look in the NAVADMIN list, the lowest rank of published promotions is Lieutenant so I can't see how I could wait for a message for the promotion to be effective. (This makes me think that O-2 to O-3 is automatic but you need to wait for the next NAVADMIN.)

 

[TheClyde]

This will not completely answer your question, but O-1 to O-2 is the day after two year anniversary of date of rank (not commissioning), whereas O-2 to O-3 is the first day of the month following two years after date of rank, and per Navadmin.

Refer to SECNAVINST 1412.6M for more info. How this looks in practice I'm not sure, but have a look at NSIPS and see if it has updated.

 

[number9]

This will not completely answer your question, but O-1 to O-2 is the day after two year anniversary of date of rank (not commissioning), whereas O-2 to O-3 is the first day of the month following two years after date of rank, and per Navadmin.

Thanks for correcting me: I used the right hypothetical dates in my post, but not the correct terms. My date of rank is a few weeks before I commissioned.

Refer to SECNAVINST 1412.6M for more info. How this looks in practice I'm not sure, but have a look at NSIPS and see if it has updated.

I can't see anything in NSIPS or BOL yet. But are those updated automatically, or once I've sworn a new oath and had paperwork uploaded? I genuinely don't know. I'll go read the instruction...

 

[TheClyde]

Thanks for correcting me: I used the right hypothetical dates in my post, but not the correct terms. My date of rank is a few weeks before I commissioned.


I can't see anything in NSIPS or BOL yet. But are those updated automatically, or once I've sworn a new oath and had paperwork uploaded? I genuinely don't know. I'll go read the instruction...

BOL is not real time updates, but NSIPS should be once they enter it. I'm assuming NSIPS still shows you as ENS?

Reading the instruction is always good but I can spare you the time, I've read it and the answers to your logistical questions are still unclear to me. Wouldn't surprise me if it takes a day or two to enter the system, but yeah maybe they don't enter it until you sign something. Not sure.

 

[FormerRecruitingGuru]

Can someone please give me accurate gouge as to how this promotion works in reality? It seems like every person I ask gives me a different version of the process.

Let's say I commissioned directly into the Reserves on 02/16/2022. That means my two-year anniversary would be yesterday, 02/15/2024. Is my promotion effective today, 02/16, or do I need to wait for the first day of March? Do I need my CO (or my NRC's CO) to sign anything to make it legal?

My understanding is that, for O-1 to O-2, it is effective on the two-year anniversary date. If you look in the NAVADMIN list, the lowest rank of published promotions is Lieutenant so I can't see how I could wait for a message for the promotion to be effective. (This makes me think that O-2 to O-3 is automatic but you need to wait for the next NAVADMIN.)

Not to sound rude, but do you not have a senior mentor or two in your unit or elsewhere to help you with this?

 

[number9]

Not to sound rude, but do you not have a senior mentor or two in your unit or elsewhere to help you with this?

Everyone I've talked to has given a different answer. Even asking the recent O-2 promotions was "Person X had to do Y, but person A had to do B".

 

[AIRMMCPORET]

Everyone I've talked to has given a different answer. Even asking the recent O-2 promotions was "Person X had to do Y, but person A had to do B".

If you don’t promote correctly to O-2, you won’t get promoted to O-3.😉

 

[FormerRecruitingGuru]

Everyone I've talked to has given a different answer. Even asking the recent O-2 promotions was "Person X had to do Y, but person A had to do B".

I find it hard to believe a senior / capable mentor doesn't know about basic promotions.

 

[number9]

I find it hard to believe a senior / capable mentor doesn't know about basic promotions.

Prove me wrong and tell me how it works

 

[ea6bflyr]

Prove me wrong and tell me how it works

Can’t the admin folks at your NOSC or reserve unit answer your question?

 

[MIDNJAC]

I feel like reserve promotions, even at higher pay grades, are like "oh crap, you promoted 5 months ago, sorry we missed it" by and large

 

[number9]

Can’t the admin folks at your NOSC or reserve unit answer your question?

The admin folks at my unit aren't sure of the process, and the NRC didn't answer the phone or their emails.

I get that this should be a fairly simple question to answer. And yet..?

 

[Griz882]

The admin folks at my unit aren't sure of the process, and the NRC didn't answer the phone or their emails.

I get that this should be a fairly simple question to answer. And yet..?

Just slap the rank on and start telling CPOs that you are now LIEUTENANT (junior grade) @number9 …someone will tell you what the regulations state, very clearly.

 

[FormerRecruitingGuru]

Prove me wrong and tell me how it works

Let Me Google That

For all those people that find it more convenient to bother you with their question than to google it for themselves.

letmegooglethat.com

 

[JTS11]

Just slap the rank on and start telling CPOs that you are now LIEUTENANT (junior grade) @number9 …someone will tell you what the regulations state, very clearly.

Go buy a fancy cover with scrambled eggs on the bill @number9 . You rate it, and will probably never be called out for it in the reserves. When you hit O-3, get a swagger stick.