OCS is competitive, but you should still do all you can to help out your fellow candidates. This will boost your peer evals and will make your time at OCS more enjoyable since you will be closer to your classmates. There is ZERO tolerance for integrity violations. An example... 5 guys in my buddies platoon were kicked out for meeting with an active duty Marine on liberty which was strictly forbidden. When questioned about it they lied and said it never happened. Also, one of the guys in my company fell asleep during a class. When asked later on if he fell asleep he said no. He was gone within a day or two.
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OCS Washouts (Specific Stories)
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my company had two candidates (male and female) who were married and were sneaking out during lights out to meet on the quarterdeck and pass notes. When confronted about it, they lied. Both were kicked out for fraternization and integrity. Rumor was that when they went before the CO, they both tried to throw the other under the bus....Fucking idiots.
haha. Sounds like they deserve each other. I wonder how many of these people who got kicked out for being shit heads go home and tell their friends that they "decided" not to do it anymore, or that they had better offers, or something like that.
If you couldn't go on liberty with an active duty Marine, then my Plt should have been fucked, because I hung out with several PLC types and Midshipmen on liberty.
Just to add to the whole accountability thing: Don't think that if Candidate Chucklehead heads off to medical for a followup appointment without checking out with you first that you are going to get kicked out for integrity when you don't know where the hell he is. You will probably get yelled at a lot, and depending on your reaction to that it could spell trouble for you in the future (eg: getting a high visibility Company billet), but it won't get you kicked out outright.
The staff understands that candidates are stressed and mostly not too experienced and are going to "give false reports."
Just to add to the whole accountability thing: Don't think that if Candidate Chucklehead heads off to medical for a followup appointment without checking out with you first that you are going to get kicked out for integrity when you don't know where the hell he is. You will probably get yelled at a lot, and depending on your reaction to that it could spell trouble for you in the future (eg: getting a high visibility Company billet), but it won't get you kicked out outright.
The staff understands that candidates are stressed and mostly not too experienced and are going to "give false reports."
They seemed to stress this a lot while I was Seniors. They stated that the only active duty Marines you could hang out with on Libo were family members.
You wont get kicked out for someones elses faults, but you're right its how you reacted to it. IF you have good intentions and screw it up it can get you an ass chewing but big picture not that much. But if you're the one messing it up, then it will lead to something bad. We had some people lie about a report and they went home. THats the only reason I bring it up.
Eh, I guess I was unintentionally vague. I meant that I was active-duty when I went through OCS as a candidate.
yeeeahh...I missunderstood you. sorry about that
I noticed this was forgiven somewhat at OCS (key word- somewhat). At TBS and later in the fleet - this is the #1 ticket to a boot out the door. -Especially with serialized items.
Curiosity question, why can't you hang out with active duty Marines off duty? Seems like a strange rule to me.
They don't want them DORing before the kool-aid takes hold?
Its just their fraternization policy. No associating with active duty Marines or engaging in a romantic relationship with fellow Candidates. Its only while in a Candidate status. Once you graduate, you just abide by the normal UCMJ policy.
Flash: I'm not really 100% sure of the reasoning, but the main issue is students who are at TBS hanging out with OCS candidates they knew prior to commissioning.
Why this is verboten is beyond me, maybe it has something to do with the frat policy and the fact that candidates are considered active duty (someone correct me on this if I am wrong), therefore they do not want candidates fraternizing with officers any more than LCpl's fraternizing with officers.
Why this is verboten is beyond me, maybe it has something to do with the frat policy and the fact that candidates are considered active duty (someone correct me on this if I am wrong), therefore they do not want candidates fraternizing with officers any more than LCpl's fraternizing with officers.
Probably just don't want them finding out that graduating OCS does not, in fact, make your cock any larger...
