O4 List

[PropAddict]

Guy I know dropped his letter last month. . . and selected for O-4 this month. Our commodore, no shit, did the Gene Hackman "I think I have something you might want back. . ." thing to him. Classic.

Meanwhile, guys who only want to stay in get passed over. Crazy world.

 

[MasterBates]

Yep, or they get the FITREP that would have made the grade.. About 6 months too late for the board.
(Left VAW with a EP.. After my separation orders were cut)

 

[insanebikerboy]

Statistics

Here's a statistic that isn't really publicized.

From starting as an ensign you have a 49% chance to make O-5, you have a 24% chance of making Skipper.

So, instead of killing yourself to make Skipper, do what is necessary to make O-5. The retirements are exactly the same.

 

[KBayDog]

Here's a statistic that isn't really publicized.

From starting as an ensign you have a 49% chance to make O-5, you have a 24% chance of making Skipper.

So, instead of killing yourself to make Skipper, do what is necessary to make O-5. The retirements are exactly the same.

OR you can GTFO and become HAL.

 

[Pags]

Has the June Transfer/Redesignation Board (Board ID 240) reported out? Rumor (doubt the source) has it that there were no 13xx "in" selects?

Not yet, but the quota letter was released. Lots of zeroes.

 

[MasterBates]

Here's a statistic that isn't really publicized.

From starting as an ensign you have a 49% chance to make O-5, you have a 24% chance of making Skipper.

So, instead of killing yourself to make Skipper, do what is necessary to make O-5. The retirements are exactly the same.

Maybe historically those numbers are right, but now? The O-4 numbers are barely over 50%.

I also think this is "if you don't get out" numbers.

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[PropAddict]

Here's a statistic that isn't really publicized.

From starting as an ensign you have a 49% chance to make O-5, you have a 24% chance of making Skipper.

So, instead of killing yourself to make Skipper, do what is necessary to make O-5. The retirements are exactly the same.

Sounds high. Like numbers from the pre-PTS/"Up or Out"-era Navy.

And couldn't one argue that almost 100% of post-command O-5's make O-6, which IS a bigger retirement? Just playing devil's advocate here. . .

 

[KBayDog]

And couldn't one argue that almost 100% of post-command O-5's make O-6, which IS a bigger retirement? Just playing devil's advocate here. . .

And, assuming you check the right boxes and the timing is perfect for you to make O-6, the retirement is nothing like what you'd make with your ATP and the metric shit-ton of hours you'd get if you took the "lesser" of the two orders.

 

[Renegade One]

So, instead of killing yourself to make Skipper, do what is necessary to make O-5. The retirements are exactly the same.

But the guy or gal who makes Skipper has more options...which are not inconsequential...and may yield different retirements...if that mean's a rat's ass.

 

[HAL Pilot]

But the guy or gal who makes Skipper has more options...which are not inconsequential...and may yield different retirements...if that mean's a rat's ass.

What price do you put on your soul?

 

[scoolbubba]

What price do you put on your soul?

Widebody out of HNL.

 

[BackOrdered]

And couldn't one argue that almost 100% of post-command O-5's make O-6, which IS a bigger retirement? Just playing devil's advocate here. . .

Not so. I had a SWO CO who finished two command afloat tours back to back and has failed every look for O-6 since. Until then, I could have swore two afloat command tours guaranteed O-6. Not that anyone who served under him is complaining if you know what I mean (command climate).

 

[robav8r]

I had a SWO CO who finished two command afloat tours back to back . . . . and has failed every look for O-6 since.

Sounds like this guy had no soul . . . .

What price do you put on your soul?

Apparently, not high enough !

 

[Flash]

What price do you put on your soul?

Since when was making Skipper a bad thing? Just because so few on this site have made CO doesn't make it evil, it probably means that most have better things to do than hang out on internet forums. And that is not necessarily a bad thing.

Not so. I had a SWO CO who finished two command afloat tours back to back and has failed every look for O-6 since. Until then, I could have swore two afloat command tours guaranteed O-6. Not that anyone who served under him is complaining if you know what I mean (command climate).

There are always exceptions to the rule but out of the many O-5 COs of operational squadrons I have known only a handful did not make O-6 and those that did not were by choice or because of 'issues' during their tour. I am not as familiar with ship or submarine COs but those I have known who had an O-5 command at sea have made O-6.

 

[BusyBee604]

Since when was making Skipper a bThere are always exceptions to the rule but out of the many O-5 COs of operational squadrons I have known only a handful did not make O-6 and those that did not were by choice or because of 'issues' during their tour. 6.

Agree Flasher, EVERY Squadron (5), CO I had (12), made O-6, in fact 3 of them made Flag, of which 1 (pictured) retired as VADM - DCNO (Air).

*Our beloved "BusyBee 1" 1966-67

I am not as familiar with ship or submarine COs...

On the 3 Submarines (WW-2 fleet type) COs (O-4) I served under... 2 retired as O-6, and the other was lost as an O-4 in the Thresher tragedy.
BzB