Max the Mad Russian
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A flying cutterman... Rare bird. Maybe you remember whether he wore a cutterman badge beneath the Wings?
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Navy VS Air Force Helicopter Pilot
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A flying cutterman... Rare bird. Maybe you remember whether he wore a cutterman badge beneath the Wings?
Max the Mad Russian
Hands off Ukraine! Feet too
My logical mistake, I confess this. But in UK the CG had never been military. Look, when aboard USCGC Gallatin in 1993 during her port call in Saint Petersburg, Russia, I met the US Navy SWO Lt who, as I've been told, was in charge of cutter's 76-mm gun since CG personnell is not authorized to use such a gun, but maybe it was a case of "lost in translation". In all the other aspects those Coasties had looked and acted as pure military ship's company.
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Max the Mad Russian
Hands off Ukraine! Feet too
Generally, international PEP is something very useful for mutual defence, and I can praise the cases when for example Swiss or Finnish or Canadian or Spain Air Forces send their exchange pilots to VFAs since those pilots are familiar with F/A-18 family aircraft. But when German Luftwaffe or Italian Aeronautica Militare send to VFA or VMFA an exchange pilots who never touched Hornets before, I suggest it takes time and money comparable to standard USN NA pipeline to "wing" them. Is it wise?
Typically, unless you're flying the exact type/model/series of aircraft from the same country, EVERYONE goes through some sort of retraining when flying a different or nearly different aircraft. Plus the USCG is very particular about how they do SAR, so even a Navy guy would have to go through ATC and re-learn things.
While the USCG may not have had -53s, they did have Pelicans.
It's pretty normal for "pure blood" USCG officers to come from cutters before going to a different community (TACLET, PR, Aviation, etc). Yes, they have water wings.
Admittedly it was a different time, but I think something was lost in the translation.
While the USCG may not have had -53s, they did have Pelicans.
It's pretty normal for "pure blood" USCG officers to come from cutters before going to a different community (TACLET, PR, Aviation, etc). Yes, they have water wings.
Admittedly it was a different time, but I think something was lost in the translation.
They have a time requirement to be able to wear them permanently though unlike SWO's, 5 years cumulative.
These were personnel exchange tours. And actually the legacy goes back to Vietnam War era. Look it up - quite a few USCG aviators distinguished themselves in combat while serving with AF units.
Either lost in translation or pure bullshit.
I say pure lost in translation...or a shoe pulling some comrades leg.
Did not know that.
Max the Mad Russian
Hands off Ukraine! Feet too
Understood. Yes even this Finn flown F/A-18C from his childhood had to pass full VMFAT-101 route before his first trap.
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Max the Mad Russian
Hands off Ukraine! Feet too
Just like TBS for Marines, right? Those two "Semper" services are similar to a degree... Just like both Marines' and Coasties' Hercs flown with enlisted navigators...
Max the Mad Russian
Hands off Ukraine! Feet too
Did not know, either. Thanks. It explains the rare case of cutterman badge beneath the single anchored wings.
I worked with a couple of patrol boat skippers, JG's and LT's, who were annoyed that they weren't going to be able to keep their pins even after doing full cutter tour.
I think a better comparison might be when most didn’t directly select Subs/Aviation from NROTC/USNA and wound up going to a ship and would lat transfer over.
Max the Mad Russian
Hands off Ukraine! Feet too
Yeah as this had been before WWII: fresh Ens should have a first tour as DivO shoe. AFAIK, Royal Navy still sticks with such rule.