Navy joins the pack and adopts Digital Camouflage

[TheBubba]

Finally, does anyone know why the polish boots are for the boat, and no shine is for shore?

My guess would be that the leather boots are for ship-board use due to the fact that a coat of polish will help the boots stand up to the elements better, whereas the no-shine boots would be really hard to maintain on ship...

 

[Gatordev]

Not saying the Marines didn't get some help from the Canadians... but from my understanding, the basic idea came from some old US Army research that had been put out to pasture.

Well, okay, but I know the Canadians have had their digicammies for some time. I don't doubt that they took some stuff from the Army, I just wonder if the guy you talked to conveniently left out the fact that we went "up north" for some help.

Neither here nor there, though, I guess. They work, so that's what matters.

 

[KBayDog]

gatordev, you seem entirely too surprised that we Marines have been jackin' ideas, weapons, uniforms, etc. since 1775...or, until very recently, just getting crappy hand-me-downs from the Hooah crowd.

It's in our blood. It's what we do. It's who we are.

 

[Gatordev]

Well, someone has to keep you people honest.

 

[KBayDog]

Well, someone has to keep you people honest.

You squids are the root cause of our ways - if you'd loosen the purse strings a little, perhaps we could buy our own gear and come up with our own ideas

 

[Ex Rigger]

You squids are the root cause of our ways - if you'd loosen the purse strings a little, perhaps we could buy our own gear and come up with our own ideas

No way......wouldn't want you guys thinking too much of yourselves. oh wait......

 

[Fly Navy]

You squids are the root cause of our ways - if you'd loosen the purse strings a little, perhaps we could buy our own gear and come up with our own ideas

See: US Navy Hornets

 

[Brett327]

gatordev, you seem entirely too surprised that we Marines have been jackin' ideas, weapons, uniforms, etc. since 1775...or, until very recently, just getting crappy hand-me-downs from the Hooah crowd.

It's in our blood. It's what we do. It's who we are.

Yeah, that and stealing my bike in Iwakuni. That's in your blood as well. Sons of b!tches!

Brett

 

[KBayDog]

Yeah, that and stealing my bike in Iwakuni. That's in your blood as well.

Brett

I didn't do it. Nobody saw me do it. You can't prove anything.

 

[HeyJoe]

You squids are the root cause of our ways - if you'd loosen the purse strings a little, perhaps we could buy our own gear and come up with our own ideas

Clarification: the USMC has its own budget separate and distinct from the "squids" so it's not the Navy's purse that is the issue. In fact, the blue side of the Dept of the Navy bears a lot of costs for the green side outside the green budget; medical, religious, aviation training and aviation R&D infrastructure.....all Marine air R&D/procurement is paid for by blue dollars (in support of green) except for air defense/C2. In return, Marines do provide some security support (scaled back from heyday of Marine dets on carriers).

Both services fall under the Dept of the Navy at Secretariat level, but submit independent budgets to OSD through the SECNAV so they have full control over their individual purses. The Marines have traditionally been smart stewards of their funding and do look for fairly mature systems to adopt so they do not have to devote their precious R&D funds to developing things that others are already working one. Exception would be program formerly known as AAAV (now EFV) that is a unique USMC requirement. Ltwgt 155mm howtizer is joint USA/USMC, but USMC doesn't have any other big ticket development programs (sterling example would be holding off on M1 tank until Army got it right and then taking their excess tanks when cold war ended).

 

[KBayDog]

^Ah, you had to go and ruin it

 

[Gatordev]

Clarification: the USMC has its own budget separate and distinct from the "squids" so it's not the Navy's purse that is the issue. In fact, the blue side of the Dept of the Navy bears a lot of costs for the green side outside the green budget; medical, religious, aviation training and aviation R&D infrastructure.....all Marine air R&D/procurement is paid for by blue dollars (in support of green) except for air defense/C2. In return, Marines do provide some security support (scaled back from heyday of Marine dets on carriers).

Oh, snap!

 

[AllAmerican75]

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to gatordev again.

Cross thread points for that one Gator.

 

[CommodoreMid]

blue cammies

Just saw the NAVADMIN that the rollout of the new blue cammies starts soon, and when I was at the NEX here at NASP on Monday I saw they will be here in April. I'm just wondering if I actually need to buy this monstrosity when it comes out since by that point I will likely (hopefully) be done with API and will get to rock the flight suit. Thoughts?

 

[BDCPCowboy]

Again, it’s still up in the air. But, at a minimum, the blue cammies will be the Navy’s working uniform for E-1 through O-10 and required in any situation that previously required dungarees for E-6 and below or wash khakis for chiefs and officers.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/9e/New_US_navy_Working_Uniform.jpg

http://www.corpsman.com/2008/12/new-info-for-navy-blue

Agreed, monstrosity is a pretty good descriptor