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Navy joins the pack and adopts Digital Camouflage

Lawman

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Some help with rumor control?

Isn't the Army looking to use MutliCam as its secondary(probably turned primary) uniform to the ACU's?

I thought the digital design was originally in R&D by the US Army, they couldn't make it work. Then the Canadians took it and made it work for exactly what they wanted with CADPAT. Seeing the CADPAT, the Marine Corps easily adapted it to their specifications and then patented or whatnot their specific pattern. Then started the mad rush by the Army and AF to look "cool."

Ive been hearing and hearing the whole "dude dont buy anymore ACU's we're switching to Multicam" rumor everywhere I go from everybody I know except a person who actually knows. Till I actually see a wear out date for my ACU's (which could only be 2 weeks after they decide at the rate they wear) Im not planning on it happening. Right now the big deal is getting everybody into the 2nd Gen ACU's with the AC2U being standard for all the aviation types and an offshoot nomex uniform for everybody else. Biggest difference is the lack of velcro and a couple extra pockets. Other than that its the same uniform.

If the Army wants to make a decision about uniforms, how about we get rid of the Frickin Baret. Its a black wool sock you wear on your head, and the worst part is it looses its shape easily. Thats why you see so many people with jacked up looking Barets wandering around (the secret is you cut the flash cardboard out). I mean hell I can look like a damn superhero if I put it on in front of a mirror but when I see that the more senior in rank the more dicked up your headgear Id be willing to rock the PC.
 

Uncle Fester

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This uniform is replacing WORKING uniforms ASHORE - ie, utilities, wash khakis, and coveralls. You will still see people in the aforementioned service and dress uniforms if that's what they are prescribed to wear. Perhaps the Navy is planning on authorizing working uniforms more often, but there's been no indication of that being the case.

The idea is to neck down to one utility uniform (Blue Digis), one working-dress (Black-and-Tans), and one service/full-dress (Blue and White crackerjacks). Officers and Chiefs will continue to have a bazillion uniforms for the near future, with the addition/revival of SDKs as an added bonus.

The trainwreck of uniforms you see in Pensacola is a combination of the new uniform rollouts, change of season, newly-arrived A-schoolers who didn't get a full seabag at Great Mistakes, and tenant commands ordering different uniforms because the Skipper wants to.

I gotta add: I was very skeptical of the Black-and-Tans when they were unveiled, but having seen them around P'cola for the last couple of months, I'll admit that they're growing on me. It's not he design I would have picked, but they do look a hell of a lot better than dungarees, summer whites or Johnny Cashes.
 

Spekkio

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The idea is to neck down to one utility uniform (Blue Digis), one working-dress (Black-and-Tans), and one service/full-dress (Blue and White crackerjacks). Officers and Chiefs will continue to have a bazillion uniforms for the near future, with the addition/revival of SDKs as an added bonus.
Thus far, everything I've seen/heard/read has said that it will be up to the skipper regarding BDU vs. coveralls when underway.

I realize the goal is to cut down the number of uniforms, I was just pointing out that you're still going to see multiple uniforms being worn on a Naval base simply because we wear service uniforms in situations where other services wear camies.

I gotta add: I was very skeptical of the Black-and-Tans when they were unveiled, but having seen them around P'cola for the last couple of months, I'll admit that they're growing on me. It's not he design I would have picked, but they do look a hell of a lot better than dungarees, summer whites or Johnny Cashes.
I gotta disagree there. Summer whites and JCs look 1,000x better than the gestapo uniforms.

Also, the black and tans didn't/aren't replacing utilities.
 

HeyJoe

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CNO and New MCPON take new uniform on world tour

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081219-N-0803S-006 MANAMA, Bahrain (Dec. 19, 2008) Chief of Naval Operations (CNO) Gary Roughead, right, and Master Chief Petty Officer of the Navy (MCPON) Rick West serve lunch to Sailors and Marines aboard USS Iwo Jima (LHD 7). Roughead and West are on a trip to the U.S. 5th Fleet area of responsibility to thank Sailors and Marines for their significant contributions in helping to bring stability and prosperity to the region by supporting maritime security operations. (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 2nd Class Nathan Schaeffer/Released)

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Mumbles

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I'm sorry....
these are atrocious. It makes Admiral Roughhead look like he's the SPETSNAZ Commander!
 

HeyJoe

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More images

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081219-N-0803S-001 MANAMA, Bahrain (Dec. 19, 2008) Master Chief Petty Officer of the Navy (MCPON) Rick West speaks to Sailors and Marines during an all-hands call aboard the amphibious assault ship USS Iwo Jima (LHD 7) while Chief of Naval Operations (CNO) Gary Roughead looks on. Roughead and West are on a trip to the U.S. 5th Fleet area of responsibility to thank Sailors and Marines for their significant contributions in helping to bring stability and prosperity to the region by supporting maritime security operations. (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 2nd Class Nathan Schaeffer/Released)
 

scoolbubba

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I'm sorry....
these are atrocious. It makes Admiral Roughhead look like he's the SPETSNAZ Commander!

I was just about to write that the ADM and MCPON look like bad guys in any of the rainbow six games i've ever played.
 

C420sailor

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On second thought, they don't look THAT bad.

The blouses look baggy around the waist. I guess they don't have the little waist button straps that the throwbacks do? Awesome, all us guys with not huge waists are going to look like we're wearing moo-moos.
 

incubus852

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Whoever is in charge of uniforms right now needs a giant fail stamp on their forehead. These things are down right atrocious and there could have been a better solution. Not to mention the new enlisted working uniform thing (khaki shirt/black trousers) and trying to get rid of aviation working greens. And the PT uniform. Apparently what every middle and high school across America can get right with $10 the Navy failed miserable at and probably wasted tons of money. I will do everything possible to avoid wearing that nastiness.
 

lmnop

Active Member
I'm sorry....
these are atrocious. It makes Admiral Roughhead look like he's the SPETSNAZ Commander!

Well, at least they don't look like Iraqi National Police uniforms.


Oh, wait....they do.

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I only hope that the US Navy can live up to the standards which they have set for the uniform.:(
 

navy09

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Those will work great in a man overboard.

Come on. Like dark blue coveralls (or dark green flight suits, for that matter) are any better...

In my limited experience conning man overboard drills, I can't imagine that what you're wearing has much to do with whether you're successfully recovered anyway.
 

Uncle Fester

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Those will work great in a man overboard.

Yep...that's the first thing everyone says. And the dark blue/dark green uniforms we wear now are different...how? Digis, dungarees, utilities, khakis and coveralls are all the same color once you get 'em wet. Unless you're wearing a float coat, you're equally invisible in the water no matter what uniform you wear.

There's lots of reasons this is a less-than-great uniform, but "man overboard visibility" isn't one.

But whatever. Once CNO and MCPON show up in public wearing them, it's a safe bet they're the uniform of the day for the near future. Bellyaching at this point is unproductive.

Besides, CNO really looks like he should be on the news talking about how many robbers are in the bank and whether his SWAT team will go in.
 

A4sForever

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....Once CNO and MCPON show up in public wearing them, it's a safe bet they're the uniform of the day for the near future...
It is the worst looking "uniform" I've seen draped across the shoulders of a U.S. Naval person ... without a doubt -- the absolute worst, ever ....

At least in the last 200 years ... :)
 

PropAddict

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They're not ideal. But, they do look easy to wear and if they end up eliminating (either officially or de facto) at least 2 other uniforms, then I'd say it's a step in the right direction. We have way too many.

FWIW, these things would look 10X less shiteous if they had a more reserved style of name tapes and decorations. Black? Navy blue, maybe? But gold?!?!

MCPON looks like he's rocking more bling than most rappers.
http://www.navy.mil/view_single.asp?id=67515
 
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