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M 16 and M4 Civilian Variants
- Thread starter DangerousDan
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Yeah, I've seen it in person and if I hadn't bought two already I would've gotten one of those as well. It's a sharp looking lower.
These are fucking sick. "Dead men tell no tales".... Think the sale is still going on? I'm not much of a gun nut.... I own a 1970s Winchester .30 06 and a 12 gauge pump... Had them my whole life.... Now i'm getting the 'itch.
Pardon the lack of my knowledges and please humor me... The parlay is obviously 'safe' but i'm guessing since these aren't automatic, what's the difference between the arghh and plunder settings?
And with the proper licenses of course, what is necessary to convert one of these to full automatic (just curious)?
Pardon the lack of my knowledges and please humor me... The parlay is obviously 'safe' but i'm guessing since these aren't automatic, what's the difference between the arghh and plunder settings?
And with the proper licenses of course, what is necessary to convert one of these to full automatic (just curious)?
ARGH is SEMI
PLUNDER is BURST/AUTO for lowers with these trigger groups.
These lowers can only be made into full automatic lowers with the addition of an NFA registered pre-86 Drop In Auto Sear (DIAS). Unless you are military or law enforcement, normal full auto parts can not be installed into a lower---that would be manufacturing a machine gun.
MasterBates
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I got the call from MCX Camp Allen, the lowers are in.
Of course, I am in JAX for another week.
Of course, I am in JAX for another week.
The cool thing about lowers, especially quality lowers this cheap is that you can buy one and just stick it in a drawer somewhere. Built it later when you have time. You can hunt with an AR too. Stick a 6.8 SPC upper in it and a 5rnd mag in it and it makes one hell of a light deer gun. More and more people are hunting with them every day.
They still have the sale on for their regular lowers. Then you can add stuff like the Infidel above, or Navy wings etc. The Pirate lower is a special addition with only 500 produced.
You don't have to make them full auto or burst just because it says it on the side.
If you want a Pirate with the ARGH Plunder etc you might want to get it now. They took it off their web site. I know they have some (less than 100) left. Yesterday when I saw they were no longer listed, I like an idiot, I called to see if they were really all gone. Now I own one of damn things.
magnetfreezer
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You're admitting to brining a firearm to the squadron?
Not if he only brought the lower (yes, considered the weapon for registration purposes but don't see how it could be a weapon by itself unless you want to beat someone to death with it)
It takes me forever to get through to them too, but when I do they make sure everything is squared away.
Try making a post here, you'll probably get a response within 24 hours.
http://www.ar15.com/forums/forum.html?b=2&f=282
Just keep trying. I called over the course of two days to get ahold of them, not because they have poor customer service but because they are so slammed. When I went down they were saying that with this sell on the lowers going on, it's probably the busiest they've ever been.
Another newbie ar-15 question for the pros (trying to square things away before I buy and build one of these bad boys). Would you be federally screwed with one of these if you ever got stationed in california? Read on wiki that they only allow ar-15s that have the fixed mag breech type loaded lowers. Thanks.
The PRK is certainly not very friendly to black guns but I don't know the fine print or how it might apply to military personel.
Some companies try to help. Some won't even ship their products there.
Google "ar 15 california compliant"
Provided you're a resident of a state that allows AR-15's and other "assault weapons", I think you can still register them if you have orders to Cali. After successful registration, you can use detachable mags as long as they're 10 rds or fewer.
http://thegunwiki.com/Gunwiki/LegalCaliforniaMilitaryAWP
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=36695
If you are looking for a really inexpensive upper check this out: DSA upper w/o BC and CH $275
http://www.dsarms.com/DSA-ZM4-Forged-7075T6-A3-AR15-Upper-Receiver??-DSZM4CBU/productinfo/DSZM4CBU/
Skim this thread for lots of info before you buy. I agree with one of the posters that this is probably a mid level upper like RRA/Bushmaster sold to gain attention in the market.
http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=118&t=458552&page=1
This is not an endorsement of their AR upper but DSA has been around a long time makes shit hot FAL's. I have one. (Check those out while you are at it) This might be the upper I use for my beater trunk gun.
Wow, those guys are less than 10 minutes away from me... I think I shall get one.