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Kneeboards For New PCL's
- Thread starter heynowlookout
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^You're not. The Wing wants you to use your PCL - not xeroxed copies, gouge, or anything like that.
It's really simple: When you're done with the runup, before you taxi to the active RW, stow your PCL where it is out of the way (and won't become FOD), but where it can be reached easily. The map case or your leg pockets are good to go. Barring an actual emergency (or a simulated non-memory emergency), you won't need it again until it's time to shut down.
The cockpit is your workspace; organize it so that it works for you.
(Now, quit worrying about PCLs and get to memorizing the FTI PROCEDURES!)
It's really simple: When you're done with the runup, before you taxi to the active RW, stow your PCL where it is out of the way (and won't become FOD), but where it can be reached easily. The map case or your leg pockets are good to go. Barring an actual emergency (or a simulated non-memory emergency), you won't need it again until it's time to shut down.
The cockpit is your workspace; organize it so that it works for you.
(Now, quit worrying about PCLs and get to memorizing the FTI PROCEDURES!)
(please!)
Didn't realize I'd start a debate by asking for kneeboard recommendations but it worked out well because you guys gave this lowly Fam student some things to ponder as far as cockpit organization.
Ask and you shall receive. You might not be able to tell from the picture but it is too long to fit in both the top and bottom clips. When only clipped in one it slides easily out from the bottow an only stays marginally in the top clip.
Ask and you shall receive. You might not be able to tell from the picture but it is too long to fit in both the top and bottom clips. When only clipped in one it slides easily out from the bottow an only stays marginally in the top clip.
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Squeeze's idea about putting in you G-suit pocket is a good one (and my first thought also), but it won't work if you fly in a plane with lower leg straps (T-6, F-18) which go right around the lower G-suit pocket.
Gator- yeah, not meaning to be a smartass either, just like you said, I don't care to have my PCL attached to my kneeboard. I think 95% of Rhino types bring a helmet bag full of crap and stick it in the well on the right side of the cockpit... never had that come loose.
I would say attaching a lot of sh!t to your kneeboard is an even worse idea... blue brains in the fleet can be several inches thick, and you don't want that crap bouncing around when you're rolling inverted or snapping on Gs.
I fly with a condensed checklist, a combat checklist, and a comm card in sleeves. Anything I else I need (weapons checklists or kneeboard card), I just put under the clip. Keep your kneeboard junk to a minimum
Gator- yeah, not meaning to be a smartass either, just like you said, I don't care to have my PCL attached to my kneeboard. I think 95% of Rhino types bring a helmet bag full of crap and stick it in the well on the right side of the cockpit... never had that come loose.
I would say attaching a lot of sh!t to your kneeboard is an even worse idea... blue brains in the fleet can be several inches thick, and you don't want that crap bouncing around when you're rolling inverted or snapping on Gs.
I fly with a condensed checklist, a combat checklist, and a comm card in sleeves. Anything I else I need (weapons checklists or kneeboard card), I just put under the clip. Keep your kneeboard junk to a minimum
I had this question a while back too, and now I use one of those fat 1-inch IFR straps and just strap it to my left leg. Typically I'll strap it in right on top of the last bingo profile, because I sure as heck don't use the PCL checklists for anything, and I'm not an FCF'er. It was out of necessity when one of my primary IPs wanted me to memorize non-memory items and I needed a way to be ahead of the game. Try it out, I like how it works...although it does tend to float the pages a little if you are in less than 1-g flight for a g-warm or something like that.
I just threw it in my leg pocket on the flightsuit in primary, and do the same with it now in helos. I never had a problem reaching the PCL in primary, had to get it out to do the manual gear retraction once.
Pags said:
Thats what I meant. If he's already got his out I leave mine in my pocket, if not I pull mine out. Now if I could just figure out where to put my nav/pub bag.....
I think everything I've read here can be summed up as follows: the issue kneeboards really are pretty awful, but that's OK, because putting the PCL on them isn't that great of an idea. I agree. I always just stuck mine in the map case while we were taxiing out to the ground runup. You have plenty of time to grab the PCL in case of an emergency (unless the E.P. is "Iminent Mid-Air Explosion" but "A$$ - Kiss Goodbye" is a memory item, anyway).
The one thing I will add here is that during RIs I saw a lot of guys go blow $50 or more at Wings to get fancy kneeboards with egg-timers or calculators built in and then a bunch of other useless stuff. What I was told is to save your money until you get out to the fleet and then see what the other guys in your community are using before you dump cash into something you don't need. The issue kneeboards seem perfectly adequate for primary/advanced (at least in Helos). The only purchase I would suggest for RIs is a 2" leg strap for your approach plates ($6.95 at Wings or www.flywings.com/catalog.htm). You can live without it, but it makes life a lot easier.
The one thing I will add here is that during RIs I saw a lot of guys go blow $50 or more at Wings to get fancy kneeboards with egg-timers or calculators built in and then a bunch of other useless stuff. What I was told is to save your money until you get out to the fleet and then see what the other guys in your community are using before you dump cash into something you don't need. The issue kneeboards seem perfectly adequate for primary/advanced (at least in Helos). The only purchase I would suggest for RIs is a 2" leg strap for your approach plates ($6.95 at Wings or www.flywings.com/catalog.htm). You can live without it, but it makes life a lot easier.
