Doesn't the above basically describe the very beginning of a Marine Officer's career?
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Doesn't the above basically describe the very beginning of a Marine Officer's career?
phrogpilot73
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Pretty much. Although at the end of our pain, we get a sweet pair of dress blues. What do you get? A boyfriend?
BlackBearHockey
go blue...
In the same vein, is it possible to do one right after commissioning in NROTC? It seems that it would be best for a career path... do an IA, maybe with some additional training, and then stay in one community's pipeline.
You're forgetting that the majority of IAs require a specific rank and most specify a designator (or include a group of them).
No. Negative. It is not. As a brand-new O-1, you have nothing of value to contribute to the GWOT...sorry. You are not trained in any warfare area, nor do you have experience. At best, you'd be a warm body filling Powerpoints somewhere deep in the Green Zone or Camp Virginia.
Naval aviators are expected to take an IA/GSA sometime between the end of your first sea tour and when you roll back to sea as a DH.
Next question.
Refer to Animal House ROTC scene. "You are worthless..."
What Uncle Fester said.
-ea6bflyr
Refer to Animal House ROTC scene. "You are worthless..."
What Uncle Fester said.
-ea6bflyr
Probably not as he's not a bubblehead.What do you get? A boyfriend?
Refer to Animal House ROTC scene. "You are worthless..."
What Uncle Fester said.
-ea6bflyr
Tell me, BlackBear: what sort of IA would accept a...man...like you?
BlackBearHockey
go blue...
It's a UMaine pin, sir!
In all seriousness, my post wasn't suggesting taking guys straight from NROTC/OCS and sending them to the two week course and then to an IA. But, in MY mind, it would make sense to take someone who has no obligations or ties to a community, and instead of training them for 1-2 years, train them for 4-6 months in some capacity where they could make a difference.
Even if it's just making powerpoints in the green zone, wouldn't that free up someone to do the ground-pounding mission? I couldn't think of a more rewarding way to start a Naval career. I think it would impact for the better many an Ensign, teaching him or her some great things to take with them before they start their career in their community.
Again, just the thoughts of a Mid...
Reflect on that and realize that in so typing you have answered your own question.
Again see Uncle Fester's post above.
"As a brand-new O-1, you have nothing of value to contribute to the GWOT...sorry. You are not trained in any warfare area, nor do you have experience."
Really. You can't just drag Joe Schmo in off the street and expect him to do anything right. Maybe you can do powerpoints, but can you brief a room full of O-5's and O-6's without making an ass of yourself? Do you know how to play Pocket Tanks while making it look like you're actually doing work? Seriously, though, you do your community training, get through your first tour, and you'll be worth sending out there. You can't just take all the things you learn in those years and substitute a few hours of powerpoint turnover.
Come on guys, we all know:
The options for a non-qual ENS to do an IA are there, but few and far between (I cannot stress that enough), usually reserved for people with "issues."
You also need to consider the credibility factor, of which a boot ENS has none.
cui bono said:
The options for a non-qual ENS to do an IA are there, but few and far between (I cannot stress that enough), usually reserved for people with "issues."
You also need to consider the credibility factor, of which a boot ENS has none.
Spekkio
He bowls overhand.
Errr...
In all seriousness, we're in the NAVY. Our job is to protect U.S. interests AT SEA, and that gets broken down into specific designators. It is not to go to Iraq to make power-points.
There is a "fast track" to getting to Iraq or Afghanistan if you really want to go -- it's called the USMC or US Army.
Besides, if serving at sea doesn't "make a difference," why have a Navy at all? (rhetorical question, obviously)
Clux4
Banned
Making Power point can be a pain. Without you understanding the way things work, your briefs will look like sh!t. You or your boss will feel like sh!t when the audience scrutinize your brief.
Why would you want to do that to yourself when you could spend time on the beach at Pcola and learn how to fly on Navy dime. Trust me there will be tons of IA to do in Afghanistan because that is where the new fight is.
Why would you want to do that to yourself when you could spend time on the beach at Pcola and learn how to fly on Navy dime. Trust me there will be tons of IA to do in Afghanistan because that is where the new fight is.