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A4sForever

BTDT OLD GUY
pilot
Contributor
The article that A4s posted says there might not be a sunset clause this time.
Yeah ... I doubt that the forthcoming crop of D.C. power-brokers will allow ANY sunset provisions in the Assault Weapons Ban, Part Deux ...

That provision was one of the things that chapped them big time on the first get-go.

The ONLY reason it went into the 1994 legislation was 'cause it wouldn't have passed Congress w/out it.

Today ... that's less of a problem (no problem?) in the "change we need" D.C. that's coming ... :)
 

Zissou

Banned
Why's that? Just curious.

There is so much demand right now that prices have been artificially inflated. The gun industry is having a housing market like bubble right now. January brings SHOT Show and release of alot of .gov over runs. Thats when I predict things will settle down.

I'd sell my 5.56 ammo now while its still through the clouds, there's a 4 billion round DOD 5.56 ammo run that will flood the market with over runs late this summer.

If you have a gun you dont love, sell it now.

My .02 cents.
 

Pugs

Back from the range
None
I'd sell my 5.56 ammo now while its still through the clouds, there's a 4 billion round DOD 5.56 ammo run that will flood the market with over runs late this summer..

Good to know. I was contemplating a buy from cheaperthandirt so will hold off a bit.
 

scoolbubba

Brett327 gargles ballsacks
pilot
Contributor
Dept of the Interior concealed carry change...

http://www.doi.gov/news/08_News_Releases/120508.html

If you're legal to concealed carry in the state, you're legal to carry on Federal Park property as long as you aren't poaching, target shooting etc...

I wonder if this'll give any traction to efforts to make it easier to bring a weapon on base?
 

PropStop

Kool-Aid free since 2001.
pilot
Contributor
What about carrying a weapon openly - such as a shotgun in bear country? I was under the impression you couldn't do that either.

Though, realistically, you're more likely to need a pistol against a person than a shotgun against a bear. Unless you're on Admiralty Island or Kodiak.
 

Lights Out

New Member
maybe we should all follow...

A4s example and purchase a new toy and quickly

This was forwarded to me, i tried a search and nothing came up so here it is kinda long though...

Gun Law Update

by Alan Korwin, Author
Gun Laws of America
Jan. 5, 2008


1. Officials stocking up on AR-15-style long guns
2. Preliminary gun ban list revealed



1. S&W sales


With bans on AR-15 and AR-15-styled rifles to the public expected under the Obama administration (see gun-ban lists below), Smith and Wesson has just announced expansion of that market, with the sale of 275 of its M&P15 rifles to the Chicago police department. http://tinyurl.com/742qre

Chicago, president-elect Obama’s home town, has virtual bans on handguns and strict repressive limits on long guns, but police are excluded and criminals blithely ignore the provisions.

The M&P15 strongly resembles the AR-15, a high quality, semi automatic long gun used by the U.S. military and the public for decades. What the Chicago police expect to do with 275 of the guns, vilified as assault weapons by the lamestream media, was undisclosed. Assault, it has been noted, is a type of behavior, not a type of hardware.

In other news, the Minnesota State Patrol has purchased 90 of the high-quality M&P15 firearms, which retail for more than $1,000 each.

In still other news, actor David Spade donated $100,000 to the Phoenix police department, to buy 50 new AR-15 rifles made by Colt, an S&W competitor. Spade was apparently moved by a “news” broadcast that said Phoenix officers had to buy their own rifles due to lack of funding, and he wanted to help them out.








2. Gun-ban list proposed


Slipping below the radar (or under the short-term memory cap), the Democrats have already leaked a gun-ban list, even under the Bush administration when they knew full well it had no chance of passage (HR 1022, 110th Congress). It serves as a framework for the new list the Bradys plan to introduce shortly.

I have an outline of the Brady’s current plans and targets of opportunity, I’m working on getting that news out asap after these ban lists, probably be ready in the next few days. It’s horrific. They’re going after the courts, regulatory agencies, firearms dealers and statutes in an all out effort to restrict we the people. They’ve made little mention of criminals.

Now more than ever, attention to the entire Bill of Rights is critical. Gun bans will impact our freedoms under search and seizure, due process, confiscated property, states rights, free speech, right to assemble and more, in addition to the Second Amendment. See what 250 of your peers thought during our recent Bill of Rights Day event at the Wrigley Mansion in Phoenix: http://www.gunlaws.com/BOR-Day-2008-Report.htm




The Democrats current gun-ban-list proposal (final list will be worse):


Rifles (or copies or duplicates):

M1 Carbine, Sturm Ruger Mini-14, AR-15, Bushmaster XM15, Armalite M15, AR-10, Thompson 1927, Thompson M1;

AK, AKM, AKS, AK-47, AK-74, ARM, MAK90, NHM 90, NHM 91, SA 85, SA 93, VEPR;

Olympic Arms PCR; AR70, Calico Liberty, Dragunov SVD Sniper Rifle or Dragunov SVU, Fabrique National FN/FAL, FN/LAR, or FNC, Hi-Point Carbine, HK-91, HK-93, HK-94, HK-PSG-1, Thompson 1927 Commando, Kel-Tec Sub Rifle;

Saiga, SAR-8, SAR-4800, SKS with detachable magazine, SLG 95, SLR 95 or 96, Steyr AU, Tavor, Uzi, Galil and Uzi Sporter, Galil Sporter, or Galil Sniper Rifle (Galatz).



Pistols (or copies or duplicates):

Calico M-110, MAC-10, MAC-11, or MPA3, Olympic Arms OA, TEC-9, TEC-DC9, TEC-22 Scorpion, or AB-10, Uzi.



Shotguns (or copies or duplicates):

Armscor 30 BG, SPAS 12 or LAW 12, Striker 12, Streetsweeper.



Catch-all category (for anything missed or new designs):

A semiautomatic rifle that accepts a detachable magazine and has (i) a folding or telescoping stock, (ii) a threaded barrel, (iii) a pistol grip (which includes ANYTHING that can serve as a grip, see below), (iv) a forward grip; or a barrel shroud.

Any semiautomatic rifle with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10 rounds (except tubular magazine .22 rimfire rifles).

A semiautomatic pistol that has the ability to accept a detachable magazine, and has (i) a second pistol grip, (ii) a threaded barrel, (iii) a barrel shroud or (iv) can accept a detachable magazine outside of the pistol grip, and (v) a semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10 rounds.

A semiautomatic shotgun with (i) a folding or telescoping stock, (ii) a pistol grip (see definition below), (iii) the ability to accept a detachable magazine or a fixed magazine capacity of more than 5 rounds, and (iv) a shotgun with a revolving cylinder.

Frames or receivers for the above are included, along with conversion kits.




Attorney General gets carte blanche to ban guns at will:

Under the proposal, the U.S. Attorney General can add any “semiautomatic rifle or shotgun originally designed for military or law enforcement use, or a firearm based on the design of such a firearm, that is not particularly suitable for sporting purposes, as determined by the Attorney General.” Note that Obama’s pick for this office (Eric Holder, confirmation hearing set for Jan. 15) wrote a brief in the Heller case supporting the position that you have no right to have a working firearm in your own home.

In making this determination, the bill says, “there shall be a rebuttable presumption that a firearm procured for use by the United States military or any federal law enforcement agency is not particularly suitable for sporting purposes, and a firearm shall not be determined to be particularly suitable for sporting purposes solely because the firearm is suitable for use in a sporting event.”

In plain English this means that ANY firearm ever obtained by federal officers or the military is not suitable for the public.

That presumption can be challenged only by suing the federal government over each firearm it decides to ban, in a court it runs with a judge it pays. This virtually dismisses the principles of the Second Amendment.

The last part is particularly clever, stating that a firearm doesn’t have a sporting purpose just because it can be used for sporting purpose -- is that devious or what? And of course, “sporting purpose” is a rights infringement with no constitutional or historical support whatsoever, invented by domestic enemies of the right to keep and bear arms to further their cause of disarming the innocent.

If these near-total bans aren’t enough, the most dangerous part may be the phrase “pistol grip” because: “The term ‘pistol grip’ means a grip, a thumbhole stock, or any other characteristic that can function as a grip.” In other words, any semi-auto long gun with a grip (that’s ALL semi-auto long guns) would be banned under the existing proposal. It’s not clear what they hope to achieve by deceptively banning guns with grips instead of just calling to ban the guns -- even an idjit can tell it’s the same thing.

I didn’t cover here all the magazine bans, transfer bans, dealer record-keeping and centralized reporting, and a host of nuisance details -- there will be time enough for that when the new lists are released soon: “As soon as President-elect Obama is inaugurated and the 111th Congress is sworn in,” according to Ms. Brady. Congress is set to be sworn in on Jan. 6, Inauguration Day is Jan. 20.

No one expects the new proposal to be less abusive than the current one supported by the party of the Democrats. Remember -- these bans were proposed when the congressional anti-rights crowd had no chance of success. Now they are ready to run wild, or according to Sarah herself, “I have never been so confident.” The “news” media has failed to report on any of this, preferring instead to blare that the incoming president supports the Second Amendment and commonsense (sic) laws.

To see the whole bill, go to http://thomas.loc.gov and search for HR 1022, (switch to the 110th Congress if the 111th has begun).

The excellent Firearms Coalition started by the late Neal Knox and now run by his family members makes these important points about the upcoming Judiciary hearings for AG nominee Holder:

“The Democrat members of the Judiciary Committee are all sworn enemies to the Second Amendment and are unlikely to be swayed at all by any firearms related arguments, but might hesitate to confirm based on Holder’s participation in the pardons of 16 Puerto Rican terrorists and billionaire financier and arms merchant Marc Rich [and perhaps the Elian Gonzalez abduction by federal agents Holder authorized]. Any letters to Democrats should focus on those issues.

“On the Republican side, Arlen Specter, the ranking Republican on the committee has never been a friend to gun rights, but he owes his reelection to NRA support and has expressed concern over the pardon issues. Among the other Republicans, most are relatively reliable votes, but only Coburn has routinely taken a leadership role on Second Amendment matters. All of them need to be pressed hard to do everything they can to block the appointment.

“For more information about Eric Holder and why his appointment must be fought tooth and nail, go to our web site at http://www.FirearmsCoalition.org.”



Respectfully submitted,
Alan Korwin, Author
Gun Laws of America
http://www.gunlaws.com/gloa.htm


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navy09

Registered User
None
I was at a few gun stores today. All were totally sold out of self defense ammo and anything black rifle related.

I'd assumed that between the economy and the war, it would be quite some time before he got around to signing an AWB. Seems that no one is taking any chances.

What do some of you more politically savvy guys think?
 

Bevo16

Registered User
pilot
There is only one gun shop in the Memphis area that has any ARs. They have about 50 of them. Strange.

Wal-Mart still has plenty of 5.56 but they are all sold out at the place with the ARs and at Bass Pro Shop. I found a high quality (Federal) case of 500 and paid just under $250 for it.
 

feddoc

Really old guy
Contributor
The article is a bit over a year old; it would not surprise me to see some, if not most, of the list come to fruition. I don't think it will happen anytime soon, but the groundwork for support within Obama's hand picked cabinet will ease the process. I would hope that Congress and the Senate will recall what the public normally does when gun control measures are suggested.

As for myself, I started buying my stuff a few years ago. Just prior to the AWB of 94, I stocked up on 200 or so AR mags, and a tad over 10K 5.56 stuff. (@75.50/500 of the Remington and Winchester ammo). I have reloaded many more rounds since. May have also purchased a few more mouths to feed during the past 4 months.
 

statesman

Shut up woman... get on my horse.
pilot
You can count on an anti-2nd amendment cabinet that is for certain. You can probably count on some serious rhetoric from Feinstein, Pelosi, Kerry, and company. I have no doubt HR 1022 will be dropped again, under a different number, but language nearly identical or even more restricting.

That said Heller, while not going as far as some would have liked, was in no way a victory for anti-2nd amendmenters. The NRA and gun lobby gained a lot of political capitol with the Heller decision and they are starting the process of taking on other cities, Chicago being one. Additional decisions in favor of 2nd Amendment rights which cite Heller as precedent will only strengthen the constitutional grounds for personal gun ownership. That said, should something like HR 1022 pass you could sue the government over each gun, but you could also sue over the entire act, take it the SCOTUS and potentially win. If done before Obama has an opportunity to nominate a justice the case would likely fall in favor or the 2nd.

Current political theory suggests that because SCOTUS historically has the highest approval rating (well above 50% with 48% being a 'historic low') the public usually trusts the court to make the right decision and supports that decision once its made. Essentially that the SCOTUS influences public opinion and in turn public opinion influences the court. I personally dont think that public opinion supports an over arching gun ban as described by HR 1022. Remember that gun control was not a huge part of the debate during the election, likely because of the Heller verdict and because people want 'change' in areas other than gun control.

Additionally a lot of House Democrats and Senate Democrats won by slim margins in battle ground areas. Especially in the House freshman Democrats coming from moderate constituencies might not have the political capitol to vote for such an extensive ban. That could work in favor of 2nd amendment rights.
 
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