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flight time - we only need one thread at a time on this ...

Jay

Registered User
+1 for the new guy sticking up for himself. If you actually look at it, you wasted more of your time criticizing him, than saying "100" and being done with it, how many hours do NFO's end up with?
 

Jay

Registered User
I'd say about zero, when you can fly an entire IFR flight, in ACTUAL and not cheating under some hood, and only see the ground on takeoff and landing, and possibly read a magazine enroute, then we'll talk.
 

scotty008

Back at last
pilot
+1 for the new guy sticking up for himself. If you actually look at it, you wasted more of your time criticizing him, than saying "100" and being done with it, how many hours do NFO's end up with?

There is a place for constructive criticism here... More advice than anything else.
 

Brett327

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Contributor
+1 for the new guy sticking up for himself. If you actually look at it, you wasted more of your time criticizing him, than saying "100" and being done with it, how many hours do NFO's end up with?

You're missing the point. There's always time to train.

Brett
 

Junior

Registered User
pilot
Yes this question has been asked and answered a lot. Extra time can definately help you, if you are still willing to learn and apply new techniques. Some people are naturally good sticks and smoke the program with nothing but IFS as prior time. If nothing else, prior time will help lessen the intimidation factor of the first few flights and increase your SA. -Lazy8s, PM if you have other questions-
 

ArkhamAsylum

500+ Posts
pilot
Most guys I know with tons of prior flight time complain about how different the Navy way is from the "real" way. Don't expect to impress any instructors with your staggering log books.
 

ArkhamAsylum

500+ Posts
pilot
I think Brett's so salty, he can leave a sour taste in the unaccusomted mouth. For all newcomer's, Brett's advice is best taken with a margarita to wash down the taste. We need guys like him on here, so PLEASE don't piss them off so bad they stop posting.

P. S. The old guys on here could one day be your squadron commander. Keep that in mind.
 

Brett327

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I think Brett's so salty, he can leave a sour taste in the unaccusomted mouth. For all newcomer's, Brett's advice is best taken with a margarita to wash down the taste. We need guys like him on here, so PLEASE don't piss them off so bad they stop posting.

P. S. The old guys on here could one day be your squadron commander. Keep that in mind.

Hopefully, people aren't putting me in their mouths. :D

Brett
 

MIDNJAC

is clara ship
pilot
I'd say about zero, when you can fly an entire IFR flight, in ACTUAL and not cheating under some hood, and only see the ground on takeoff and landing, and possibly read a magazine enroute, then we'll talk.

not to be a smart@ss here, but isn't that exactly what a pilot who holds an IR rating should be able to do? I know that at least 50% of my civilian IR training was in actual (crappy Pac NW weather) so maybe my experience was different than others, but that seems like meat and potatoes stuff for a competent pilot to me.
 

Gatordev

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pilot
Site Admin
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not to be a smart@ss here, but isn't that exactly what a pilot who holds an IR rating should be able to do? I know that at least 50% of my civilian IR training was in actual (crappy Pac NW weather) so maybe my experience was different than others, but that seems like meat and potatoes stuff for a competent pilot to me.

Your experience, I'm guessing based on my sporadic reading of the periodicals, is not the norm for an average "recreational" (lower case) IFR pilot. Currency always seems to be an issue and something the civilian "experts" like to harp on maintaining, and rightfully so.
 

Jay

Registered User
Actually no, that isn't what your instrument rating is supposed to allow you to do, in my opinion. In fact, riddle me this batman, you got your instrument rating, you had a whopping, I don't know, 120 hours. Please go ahead and lie to all of us and tell me that your first flight after your instrument rating, you went out and flew approaches down to minimums left and right, not only that, you felt comfortable. You can't bullshiat a bullshiater, I was there once, and I know absolutely no one who did, not me, not students I had, not anyone. I take that back, my CFII when I was a student way back when did, he told me it was the most scared he'd ever been in his entire life, and that just because I got my instrument ticket, if I ever went out on a really nasty day until I got some "experience", he'd kill me if I didn't kill myself.
 

zippy

Freedom!
pilot
Contributor
Lazy8s said:
I'm not being a dick, i guess there is some confusion on what this site is designed for. And your right, you've been there and i havent, thats why i am asking questions that you have probably heard a million times. I will try to think of some better ones in the future.

There shouldn't really be any confusion in what this site is for... I have no problems answering questions that I know the answer to. My previous point was that using the search feature, or looking through all the threads in the different sections would allow you to find the answer to your questions and learn a lot more in the process. Brett attempted to help you help yourself, and you took offense to it. He really couldnt have said it much nicer (especially when you made mutiple posts on similar topics). You came off as jackass in your response to him, so I called you on it.

+1 for the new guy sticking up for himself. If you actually look at it, you wasted more of your time criticizing him, than saying "100" and being done with it, how many hours do NFO's end up with?

Actually, I think you missed the point too. I had no problem answering his questions. I had a problem with him telling off someone who was trying to help him help himself. Also, I don't feel any of my posts in theis threads have been a waste of my time. I'll defer to a NFO to answer your question about their flight time because I'm not sure what the answer is.
 
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