One E and one F in Atsugi
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F/A-18 Bases
- Thread starter GMan1976
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One E and one F in Atsugi
Good question, I believe so... I'll let a JV guy ring in on that...
I think your confusing nobody wants Lemoore with nobody wants Rhinos, cause theres plenty of people that will go to Lemoore for Rhinos already in line.
I think you confused yourself... Rhinos tends to be the #1 preference out of Advanced...
No thats what I was going for. Though I can see where using something other then confusing could have made it a clearer statement.
just out of curiousity... I am trying to do the math here. I know how the process goes, but I was just wondering how the following works.
Everyone always says that MAYBE the number one guy will get jets. So my question is... how does this add up?
How big are class sizes in primary? Is it over ten? If so and only one person might get jets then that would mean that less than 10% of the available slots are jets? Does this match the fleet percentage of jets to the total? Because I thought that the percentage of jets in the fleet was a little higher than that.
I don't know much about this but I have talked to a couple aviators who say that jets aren't that difficult to come by if you do good in primary and I have also heard/read that they are "one in a million." If every class has one or less jet slots, then where are they getting their pilots? Or is one student out of every graduating primary class enough to fill the need?
disclaimer: I do want jets, but it doesn't matter to me. I'm just curious.
Everyone always says that MAYBE the number one guy will get jets. So my question is... how does this add up?
How big are class sizes in primary? Is it over ten? If so and only one person might get jets then that would mean that less than 10% of the available slots are jets? Does this match the fleet percentage of jets to the total? Because I thought that the percentage of jets in the fleet was a little higher than that.
I don't know much about this but I have talked to a couple aviators who say that jets aren't that difficult to come by if you do good in primary and I have also heard/read that they are "one in a million." If every class has one or less jet slots, then where are they getting their pilots? Or is one student out of every graduating primary class enough to fill the need?
disclaimer: I do want jets, but it doesn't matter to me. I'm just curious.
MasterBates
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Jet slots depend on what the Navy needs THAT WEEK.
Forexample, this week there may be 4 guy with Jet grades that want jets. There are no jet slots, and they all end up in Helos or E2C2
Next week, there are 5 jet slots, 6 guys with jet grades, 5 guys get jets..
Forexample, this week there may be 4 guy with Jet grades that want jets. There are no jet slots, and they all end up in Helos or E2C2
Next week, there are 5 jet slots, 6 guys with jet grades, 5 guys get jets..
And ... who cares? No need to game the game and make all the math work on your piece of scrap paper. Just do your best.
thanks guys, i was just curious if there was a reason to why there were so little jet slots and why there was less consitency in the number of jets per drop when compared to the other platforms. is the number of jets vs. the total 4000 estimated aircraft that little? the intermediate/advanced jet classes are getting students from somewhere. i understand that there may only be one if any jet slot per primary selection, but does that tend to be the norm? is there maybe only one class a year that gets more than one slot? or are there several?
There's some misunderstanding of the whole process in general. First up, you're not necessarily competing against the other guys that are selecting that week. It's possible that it happens, but the bigger issue is how many slots they're willing to give up that quarter/FY. It's part of a MUCH bigger equation that happens WAY above most of our paygrades. The short of it is, are "they" willing to cough up one more slot for "you" this week, or would it be better for "them" to wait until next week. This is where input from the CO (and flight leaders) comes into play. So if one week there's a bunch of jet wanna-bes, but they're aren't a bunch of jet slots, "they" can look ahead to the next week and see that there is only a handful of selectees and that most are going to be helo/other. That way, "they" can take a slot from that week and apply it early.
Also, it's not like there's "so few" jet spots. I've seen J1 and J2 selections for the last few months pretty regularly, and amongst a lot of competitive NSSes. Overall, there's more "Other" pilots than jet types (helos alone make up around 52% of Navy Air, depending on what powerpoint slide you read), but there's plenty of jet slots for those that are deserving.
phrogpilot73
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You learn something new every day. I think it's somewhere close to 60-70% for the USMC... If you ask me, it's the best 52% around
You learn something new every day. I think it's somewhere close to 60-70% for the USMC... If you ask me, it's the best 52% around
I figured it was higher, but wasn't sure how much. PME? Puh-shaw.