COVID-19

[taxi1]

Here I am going to help you.. This is the latest study that I have seen that say masks work.

https://aip.scitation.org/doi/10.1063/5.0057100

But if you read the fine print. It’s says cloth masks are best case 10% effective.

You‘re welcome!

Thanks!

The new studies showed significant gain with just a 29 increase in mask wearing. Obviously it'd be higher with more mask wearing.

You're kind of betting that their results won't survive peer review, since it is a full-on RCT study, which has been the complaint to this point.

 

[Hair Warrior]

Thanks loads!! You just gave away the play book. How are we going to debate anything on AW now?

I’m pretty sure that is how people debate on AW.

 

[taxi1]

Vaccinated or not, fat or not, it would suck to be an junior high student and have your teacher die from Covid right now.

A Central Texas school district closed its schools until after the Labor Day holiday Tuesday after two teachers died last week of COVID-19.

Connally Independent School District officials closed its five suburban Waco schools for the rest of the week after the Saturday COVID-19 death of Natalia Chansler, 41, a sixth grade social studies teacher at Connally Junior High School, said Assistant Superintendent Jill Bottelberghe.

Chansler's death came days after David McCormick, 59, a seventh grade social studies teacher at Connally Junior High, died of COVID-19, Bottelberghe said.

Texas school system closes after 2 teachers die of COVID-19

A Central Texas school district closed its schools until after the Labor Day holiday Tuesday after two teachers died last week of COVID-19.

www.foxnews.com

 

[SlickAg]

So, if masks work so well, how come countries and states that have been masking so hard have the exact same case curves as states that haven't? Apparently some of the mods get mad when other countries' names are mentioned, so I'll just leave it vague. American science only.

 

[taxi1]

So, if masks work so well, how come countries and states that have been masking so hard have the exact same case curves as states that haven't? Apparently some of the mods get mad when other countries' names are mentioned, so I'll just leave it vague. American science only.

Read the tweet thread, it explains it all.

 

[SlickAg]

Read the tweet thread, it explains it all.

It still doesn't explain something like what's happening in Oregon. If masks work so well, then why aren't they working there? Is the science different in the Pacific Northwest?

"We’re seeing the number of people hospitalized going up at rates we’ve never seen before,” said Peter Graven, Ph.D., lead data scientist in OHSU’s Business Intelligence unit. “We had hoped to see the new statewide masking mandate make a difference in flattening the rate of infection, but we’re not seeing that yet.”

Coronavirus Watch: Oregon has yet to bend the curve on COVID-19 surge, OHSU says

So after the cases drop on their own, think the people in charge are going to credit the mandatory masks outside? My money is on yes. Strange that the indoor mask requirement didn’t stop this wave though...

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1432041542798114818

 

[Hair Warrior]

Since the media are so gung-ho about publishing the private medical info of COVID pateints, why not also post their BMI, weight, diabetes, and cardiovascular status? I dunno about you all, but when they include the photos of COVID dead it’s sometimes pretty clear why they died.

Or, just respect the private medical info and stop sensationalizing COVID deaths to fear-monger.

Example:

Winter Haven woman hospitalized with COVID-19, comes home to find husband dead

A Winter Haven woman is grieving the loss of her husband after she got hospitalized with COVID-19, only to come home to find her husband dead from COVID-19 complications.

www.abcactionnews.com

Carefully cropped photo in that article:


A different angle of same person, from a different source:

And yes, this may seem insensitive, but the facts and physiological context matter so people can make risk-informed decisions.

 

[taxi1]

It still doesn't explain something like what's happening in Oregon. If masks work so well, then why aren't they working there?

If they don't work, why did they work in a randomized controlled trial? That's the gold standard.

 

[robav8r]

Vaccinated or not, fat or not, it would suck to be an junior high student and have your teacher die from Covid

or . . . . . . drinking and driving, heart disease, cancer, texting and driving, drug overdose, victim of rise in gun violence, extreme weather event, hostile act/active shooter, trying to take a selfie on the edge of a cliff, being in Kabul, food poisoning, natural causes, you know, all those causes of death the CDC doesn't want you thinking about right now. ?

 

[taxi1]

or . . . . . . drinking and driving, heart disease, cancer, texting and driving, drug overdose, victim of rise in gun violence, extreme weather event, hostile act/active shooter, trying to take a selfie on the edge of a cliff, being in Kabul, food poisoning, natural causes...

The difference is, there's a decent likelihood one of the kids gave Covid to their teacher.

 

[SlickAg]

If they don't work, why did they work in a randomized controlled trial? That's the gold standard.

So why aren’t they working in real life? What’s the point of a RCT if the results can’t be duplicated in real life?

 

[SlickAg]

The difference is, there's a decent likelihood one of the kids gave Covid to their teacher.

Wait, so the vaccine didn’t protect someone?

 

[taxi1]

So why aren’t they working in real life? What’s the point of a RCT if the results can’t be duplicated in real life?

It was real life.

 

[SlickAg]

It was real life.

So, now that we’ve circled back to the original question, how does this data jive with what’s happening in Oregon? Because that counts as real life, right?

 

[taxi1]

So, now that we’ve circled back to the original question, how does this data jive with what’s happening in Oregon?

What are your hypotheses? Now that an RCT has confirmed they work?