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Can I fly jets!

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bunk22

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dustydog said:
6) Flying a helicopter is the only pure stick and rudder flying that you will do in the military.

I've got two aircraft for you. They're navy even. The **** can I fly, the C-2A and the E-2C Hawkeye. As stick (well...yoke) and rudder as you can get. Just though I would mention it......I'm bored.
 

PropStop

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I always thought I was owed the P-3 by the navy. I was born to it. I was entitled to it! I DESERVED IT DAMNIT!

It was my dream since i was 9 to fly something with a rack, a kitchen, and laser beams. I got 2 outta 3, that ain't bad.

A4's, you wana talk about true stick and rudder flying by the seat of your pants?! Try this: You're at 300', doing 180 kts, your PPC is flying, you've got a plate of breakfast sausage and pancakes in one hand, your other hand on the AP disconnect button on the yoke, and a coke between your legs. You've only got a few minutes before your food gets cold and you coke gets warm - WHAT DO YOU DO?! That's difficult flying. You mean to tell me an A-4 is more difficult than that? What navy were YOU in?!
 
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A4sForever

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PropStop said:
.... WHAT DO YOU DO?! That's difficult flying. You mean to tell me an A-4 is more difficult than that? What navy were YOU in?!

You win :icon_wink . The only time mine was "difficult" was @ 3/4 of a mile, "call the ball", totally BLACK, no horizon, the ship can't make enough wind, we're low fuel state, no "needles", there are lightning storms all around, I have vertigo, I've got to take a leak, and my B/N is screaming ... "We're GONNA' DIE!!".
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I defer to your degree of difficulty :) ... my Navy @ 50' > 450 KIAS (no need for an altimeter -- "you can feel" it) -- was FUN !!!
... but "difficult"... Naaaaa ...
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PropStop

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A4sForever said:
You win :icon_wink . The only time mine was "difficult" was @ 3/4 of a mile, "call the ball", totally BLACK, no horizon, the ship can't make enough wind, we're low fuel state, no "needles", there are lightning storms all around, I have vertigo, I've got to take a leak, and my B/N is screaming ..."We're GONNA' DIE!!".


yeah, jet guys don't know what difficult flying is, not at all.
 

bch

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ouch, ok ok... real fixed wing guys... not the guys who can't figure out if they want to be helo bubbas or jet pilot LOL jk
 

A4sForever

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bch said:
still waiting for you fixed wingers to fly backwards.....

I can't even walk backwards, but fly?? I've done it --- kinda -- or was it "falling backwards" from a zero-airspeed, nose-high "zoom" climb in a dogfight? In any case, I just sat there and waited for the nose to fall through (with a minor "burp" from a compressor stall) -- helped by a light "tap" on a rudder -- and I was back flying and wreaking devastation on the hapless F-4s I was fighting/training.

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Does this qualify ... ??? WHICH WAY IS UP, ANYWAY ???
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squeeze

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PropStop said:
yeah, jet guys don't know what difficult flying is, not at all.

when you have to come down through ~4k' of solid goo at night on the wing and dirty up in the sh-t, come talk to me :)

/hardest. approach. ever.
 

PropStop

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squeeze said:
when you have to come down through ~4k' of solid goo at night on the wing and dirty up in the sh-t, come talk to me :)

/hardest. approach. ever.

like a P-3er doesn't fly through the goo. Seems like all we do is IMC flying. It isn't hard. Now do that with a doughnut in one hand and hot coffee between your legs - oh, SNAP! now we're talking REAL flying!
 

dustydog

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Try flying all the way to the ground in low-light, brown out conditions, nevering seeing the earth until you hit it. That is challenging flying. Training command "There I was..." stories just don't cut it.
 

Brett327

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PropStop said:
like a P-3er doesn't fly through the goo. Seems like all we do is IMC flying. It isn't hard. Now do that with a doughnut in one hand and hot coffee between your legs - oh, SNAP! now we're talking REAL flying!
Flying IMC is not the same as flying wing IMC.

Brett
 
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