The video of the actual wreck is playing on CNN and should be an advertisement for Boeing airframe survivability...great job by the engineers designing that thing...
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So they had a stick shaker and no one did any thing until 3.5 seconds later when go around was called for? Yikes!
Did extensive research during graduate program Re CRM as it applied to Asian carriers. I know we don't speculate around here - and I'm NOT suggesting it was a factor, simply offering a few things I learned:
- juniors are very reluctant to question seniors.
- questioning and forceful backup are very foreign concepts to many Asian cultures.
Possibly. If it was the captain's landing.See below for possible explanation.
Possibly. If it was the captain's landing.
I didn't see where it said the mishap pilot was a trainee, on IOE, upgrade, etc. What am I missing? I did see the discussion about the new displaced threshold. But that means the landing area is moved down the runway to begin with. That shouldn't induce in any way landing well short of the original threshold.Apparently it was a 'trainee' pilot though certainly not an inexperienced one (what would you call him, an 'upgrader'?).
Still better than Air France when the guy held full back stick for several minutes from 30k until the deck.So they had a stick shaker and no one did any thing until 3.5 seconds later when go around was called for? Yikes!
Maybe. But in fairness, the AF mishap occurred at night over the ocean, in poor weather with malfunctioning instruments and other erroneous indications. I would expect better in excellent weather on a visual landing with, probably, a perfect airplane.Still better than Air France when the guy held full back stick for several minutes from 30k until the deck.
I didn't see where it said the mishap pilot was a trainee, on IOE, upgrade, etc. What am I missing? I did see the discussion about the new displaced threshold. But that means the landing area is moved down the runway to begin with. That shouldn't induce in any way landing well short of the original threshold.
The needs of the many out weigh the needs of the few (or one).Almost like the post ejection scene in Hot Shots: http://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/news/2013/07/07/autopsies-monday-for-crash-victims/2497497/
With only 40 something hours in type, Captain had to be high mins and would be required to do the landing!Possibly. If it was the captain's landing.
IOE? No better time to get your first landings then day vfr.With only 40 something hours in type, Captain had to be high mins and would be required to do the landing!