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ASIANA Boeing 777 crash landing KSFO

The video of the actual wreck is playing on CNN and should be an advertisement for Boeing airframe survivability...great job by the engineers designing that thing...
Pickle
 
So they had a stick shaker and no one did any thing until 3.5 seconds later when go around was called for? Yikes!
 
wink said:
So they had a stick shaker and no one did any thing until 3.5 seconds later when go around was called for? Yikes!
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See below for possible explanation.

Recovering LSO said:
Did extensive research during graduate program Re CRM as it applied to Asian carriers. I know we don't speculate around here - and I'm NOT suggesting it was a factor, simply offering a few things I learned:

- juniors are very reluctant to question seniors.
- questioning and forceful backup are very foreign concepts to many Asian cultures.
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Flash said:
Apparently it was a 'trainee' pilot though certainly not an inexperienced one (what would you call him, an 'upgrader'?).
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I didn't see where it said the mishap pilot was a trainee, on IOE, upgrade, etc. What am I missing? I did see the discussion about the new displaced threshold. But that means the landing area is moved down the runway to begin with. That shouldn't induce in any way landing well short of the original threshold.
 
wink said:
So they had a stick shaker and no one did any thing until 3.5 seconds later when go around was called for? Yikes!
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Still better than Air France when the guy held full back stick for several minutes from 30k until the deck.
 
pourts said:
Still better than Air France when the guy held full back stick for several minutes from 30k until the deck.
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Maybe. But in fairness, the AF mishap occurred at night over the ocean, in poor weather with malfunctioning instruments and other erroneous indications. I would expect better in excellent weather on a visual landing with, probably, a perfect airplane.
 
wink said:
I didn't see where it said the mishap pilot was a trainee, on IOE, upgrade, etc. What am I missing? I did see the discussion about the new displaced threshold. But that means the landing area is moved down the runway to begin with. That shouldn't induce in any way landing well short of the original threshold.
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Damn Yahoo changed the story, here is a Reuters report saying the guy had almost 10,000 hours but less than 50 in the 777.
 
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