• Please take a moment and update your account profile. If you have an updated account profile with basic information on why you are on Air Warriors it will help other people respond to your posts. How do you update your profile you ask?

    Go here:

    Edit Account Details and Profile

1,001 questions about the ASTB (post your scores & ask your questions here!)

Ghost SWO

Well-Known Member
Contributor
I've taken the OAR twice so far and have gotten the same score. The second time I thought I did better yet... I didn't. Myself and my recruiter would like me to take it again for the third and final time. I have never been a good test taker and have always felt that tests like these don't determine how smart you really are. All of these tests (OAR, SAT, GRE) are all made to try and trick you and I don't believe that is fair. None the less my complaints won't change anything. What I need is some suggestions on what to study and where to find it cause clearly what I was studying did not help as I thought it did. I went through the forum and picked up some good study material and tips on what to study but I know there is so much more that I probably missed.

For those who help, I thank you and I am extremely grateful for your time and effort. If I am being extremely honest having to take the test for a third time is extremely discouraging, it makes me feel that maybe I am not cut out for this. However, I do not want to give up, I have one more try and I am going to give it my all.
I was never a great test taker either, and through an 8 month long technical school in the USAF I thought that it was rigged against me. In the first two months I overthought every question and scored lower on the tests than my classmates even when I was the one teaching them the material. My classmates didn't understand the material, but they wrote their rote memorized answers down on the test and scored better than I did. Military tests are pretty straightforward and are not designed to trick you. If the answer seems too easy, don't psyche yourself out about it.

I figured out the military tests are mostly about regurgitating the information and that's all there is to it. The OAR/ASTB is slightly different because it will test the extent of your knowledge with the adaptive test, but that doesn't mean it's trying to trick you. It's trying to see where you fit score-wise with everyone else. If you want to join the military I'd get over this, "It's not fair and they're made to trick you" mentality. You're going to be compared to your peers constantly through evaluations so carrying that mentality into a military service is just going to weigh you down and you're not going to enjoy it.
 

Andrew_franny

New Member
I went to MEPS before my exam. Last Friday I went to MEPS and this Friday I am taking the exam.
Okay right on, I guess I’m just asking because I’m slightly color blind and I feel there’s a chance I might not be able to fly (I just have hell of a time with Ishihara plate tests). I think I just plan to take the test before MEPS, do my best, and then whatever happens at MEPS, happens. If anyone else has some input, I’d be really happy to hear it.
 
Okay right on, I guess I’m just asking because I’m slightly color blind and I feel there’s a chance I might not be able to fly (I just have hell of a time with Ishihara plate tests). I think I just plan to take the test before MEPS, do my best, and then whatever happens at MEPS, happens. If anyone else has some input, I’d be really happy to hear it.
I’m taking my exam before MEPS as well... most would probably say go to MEPS first but do what you want. I personally want that elephant off my back and finish the exam and knowing I passed then go to MEPS and fail the exam
 

RNeptune

Member
I’m taking my exam before MEPS as well... most would probably say go to MEPS first but do what you want. I personally want that elephant off my back and finish the exam and knowing I passed then go to MEPS and fail the exam
I actually wanted to do it the same way as you, but it didn't work out that way for me. The exam before MEPS makes more sense.
 
What are some history questions that people got on the exam?
I think on proprofs there’s a bunch on naval history questions as well as quizlet. I mean that’s where I found mine. I took mine over a year ago and plan on taking it a second time in March. If I was a guessing person I’d think it would have some questions major battles in the 40s and Apollo missions
 

lah512

New Member
Negative.

When you pull the joystick down (toward you) the crosshair goes up. When you push it forward (away from you) the crosshair goes down. I believe even was right and odd was left so that should equate to odd numbers on the clutch (throttle), and even numbers on the joystick trigger if I remember correctly.
Ok thank you for the clarification! I'll set it up accordingly now.
 

donkeh

Well-Known Member
Ok thank you for the clarification! I'll set it up accordingly now.
Don't mean to create more confusion but my ASTB was not set up this way. It was what you stated originally, to push the target reticle up you made a forward motion on the joystick, and to move it downward you pulled the joystick towards you, hence making it somewhat disorienting at first. Others I have spoken to regarding the exam have reiterated that this was the method they were subject to during the PBM and if you search up threads on PBM on AW you can find numerous replies stating the controls are inverted.
 

Ghost SWO

Well-Known Member
Contributor
Don't mean to create more confusion but my ASTB was not set up this way. It was what you stated originally, to push the target reticle up you made a forward motion on the joystick, and to move it downward you pulled the joystick towards you, hence making it somewhat disorienting at first. Others I have spoken to regarding the exam have reiterated that this was the method they were subject to during the PBM and if you search up threads on PBM on AW you can find numerous replies stating the controls are inverted.
If your controls were pushing forward to move the aircraft up on the screen and pulling aft toward you to make the airplane go down on the screen, it was not set-up properly. You're probably in a very small group of people who took the test this way.

It should be set up inverted to imitate the aircraft control systems used in every aircraft I'm aware of.

 

donkeh

Well-Known Member
If your controls were pushing forward to move the aircraft up on the screen and pulling aft toward you to make the airplane go down on the screen, it was not set-up properly. You're probably in a very small group of people who took the test this way.

It should be set up inverted to imitate the aircraft control systems used in every aircraft I'm aware of.

"The examinee has no control over the speed or direction of the target. The test subject manipulates the crosshairs by moving the joystick located on their right. When the joystick is moved to the right the crosshairs move right. Conversely, when the participant moves the joystick to the left, the targeting crosshairs move to the left. When the joystick is pushed forward the crosshairs move up and when the joystick is pulled back the crosshairs move down. "

This quote was taken directly from Naval Postgraduate School Thesis on the ASTB and guidelines on test administration - https://web.archive.org/web/20110720014236/http://edocs.nps.edu/npspubs/scholarly/theses/2007/Dec/07Dec_Ostoin.pdf
 

Ghost SWO

Well-Known Member
Contributor
"The examinee has no control over the speed or direction of the target. The test subject manipulates the crosshairs by moving the joystick located on their right. When the joystick is moved to the right the crosshairs move right. Conversely, when the participant moves the joystick to the left, the targeting crosshairs move to the left. When the joystick is pushed forward the crosshairs move up and when the joystick is pulled back the crosshairs move down. "

This quote was taken directly from Naval Postgraduate School Thesis on the ASTB and guidelines on test administration - https://web.archive.org/web/20110720014236/http://edocs.nps.edu/npspubs/scholarly/theses/2007/Dec/07Dec_Ostoin.pdf
If that is really how it's supposed to be, I don't understand the discrepancy between ASTB facilities that administer it differently.
 
Top