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It's also interesting that the federal government has placed all Officers on this board in the top two quintiles of household income earners and some in the top 5%, depending on rank, when you factor in all the allowances and special pays. Where Romney got his statistic is that 3/5 quintiles...

If I had a unique name like steamboat, no chance in hell I'm changing it. For a celebrity example, look up the name of Frank Zappa's kids. None of them changed their names, except one who changed it to what the hospital originally forbid Frank to name him upon birth.

Pugs I agree with you. There are also many Republicans who would like to push this very issue. My point is that the GOP is too busy losing votes by pushing antiquated social policies to be able to gain enough of a Congressional majority to reform entitlement spending. One thing to note though...

I've said this before and I'll say it again: the Republican party needs to come to grips with the 21st century when it comes to social and cultural policies. It's great that Republicans can unilaterally carry small-town neighborhoods who think that teaching the theory of evolution in schools...

You can try to extend your lease by 2-3 months. Many landlords are accomodating in this kind of situation.

We still have those as an underway uniform. Same pier only restrictions exist. What changed is much stronger language dictating that the NWU shall be the normal inport uniform. The fear of torn and stained uniforms holds true. It's just done with $80 NWUs instead of $25 coveralls because...

I disagree that an "at sea" and "in-port" working uniform need to be different. For the guys who do maintenance, they get dirtier in-port than at-sea. We should take a page from the CG -- two piece FR coveralls, authorized in-port and at-sea.

I think that you misunderstood my point. NWUs are authorized in a lot of situations that utilities were not, which saves junior enlisted from catching grief for trying to follow the restrictive rules. That includes shopping in big box stores, grocery stores, or malls after work on your way home...

Most of the gripes re old uniforms revolved around the fit for pants and the CPO with nothing to do but harrass an E4 getting gas bc it didn't fit the CPOs definition of a quick stop. The solution was apparently spending millions on blue digicam. Makes perfect sense.

Its only a recent requirement... one which no one understood why it was implemented, but now that the Navy knew NWUs aren't flame resistand for over 2 yrs, it makes sense.

I have a CCC telling Sailors to reenlist now instead of calendar year 2013 because the fiscal cliff might take away reenlistment bonuses. I think this is bs because A) the fiscal year goes from Oct - Sep and B) I can't find anything on the net reporting that cuts to military bonuses or special...

@scoob, nstm 300 requires Sailors to wear arc flash suits when working on energized gear. The Navy version of an AFS is cotton flame retardant coveralls. So no, Sailors are not authorized to do electrical work in NWUs unless the entire work area is deenergized or less than 30V. But the Navy...

Everyone was wearing NWUs under their FFEs. The test quoted says that it took a direct flame to each service's fabric for 12 seconds, which melted the NWU and charred the other two. So I suppose if someone were to stand in the fire without FFEs, the NWUs might have melted, but then you have...

As a devil's advocate theory-to-practice, a ship recently fought a fire for approximately 12 hours and had 0 cases of NWUs melting to their skins. They did, however, have a handful of burn cases from dripping, near boiling water wetting the flash hoods with no fire helmets supplied.

@Brett, Look, I accept that the decision has been made and women are here to stay on submarines. I am just skeptical when someone quotes a mythical mathematical manning calculus (I say mythical because "they" haven't produced the study, either) that thinks women are going to be the panacea...

Bonuses aren't a good retention tool. People who stay typically do so because either they enjoy their jobs, or they don't feel like they have any other options. Throwing extra money at an O-3 or O-4 who, unless he made some really bad investments, isn't starving for cash isn't going to persuade...

Sub JO retention is higher than ever, and was above average when the new policy was announced. Kinda blows a hole in the manning theory.

There were, on occassion, some sub COs who tried to ban smoking on their boats underway because they didn't want to smell that shit through their whole boat. They were pee-pee smacked harshly for giving an unlawful order. Fast forward and now it's universally not allowed to smoke inside the hull...

Deployment rules are different. Commanders have a lot more leeway with what is necessary to accomplish the mission. A commander INCONUS cannot ban alcohol.

o If I were criticizing them for how to best employ a CSG or the strategic importance of a shipping lane, you'd have a point. But we're not talking about that; we're talking about personnel management. That is something that everyone over the rank of E-5 has experience with. And granted an E-5...

I'm left wondering why a commander can't ban alcohol completely as a lawful order, under the precept that alcohol is otherwise legal in all respects, but he can ban spice.

o Ah, yes. If only I could have such an in-depth understanding of 2nd and 3rd order effects, then I'd reach the obvious conclusion to impose a blanket curfew and limit on drinking past 2200 for grown adults. It takes 20 years to develop that level of problem solving ability and JOs like me...

I buy that, but I also think that the reason it's not understood is that no one really cared to study it because it's illegal. It doesn't really take a whole lot to set up a performance experiment similar to the one that supposedly arrived at 0.08 BAC is the line where one has a significant...

If I had to guess, I'd say that the Navy outright bans other drug use because, along with them being illegal, there is no way for them to objectively test if you are actually high when you show up for duty. There is only a way for them to test if you have used the drug in the past X amount of...

I commissioned at 25. No one really cares or asks about age, and unless you have gray hairs or some other sign of aging, people will usually assume you are in your lower 20s until you make O-3, as that's the aveage age of the people in your peer group who commissioned from USNA or NROTC.

I don't know... but there most definitely will be lessons learned. The point is that they didn't use any data obtained from women on boomers to decide if it is also logistically feesible to put them on fast attacks.

So you found an exception. Some of the most successful Americans dropped out of college. So by your logic, we shouldn't require Officers to have college degrees because we are denying the military some of the brightest, innovative minds who could earn a MOH one day.

It was formally announced before these women even got to boomers that they'd be on fast attacks starting 2014-2015ish. The boomer "experiment" was a success before it began.

bastard!

Most people recognize that women are more than capable of doing any job on a submarine. The gripe fest stems from the logistics of serving on one with them and the fact that the already small stowage space people get is about to get smaller to accomodate a PC mission to put women on subs.

Brett, your post illustrates why the divo and below level bang their heads against the wall -- any time an idea is proposed that presents a change from the status quo, it is at best dismissed the minute that it won't work 100% of the time, even if it could produce measurably improved results. At...

This will continue to be a big deal everytime a green Officer shows up and gets her own stateroom on day 1 or new E-3 gets her own rack and forces an E-5 or E-6 back to hot racking. The mere presence of women on soon to be VA and LA class subs is going to adversely affect every crewmember's QOL...

If your goal is zero incidents ever, then that's simply impossible. If it's to reduce the number of incidents, setting up a screening process that includes reviewing high school records, reviewing extra-curriculars, and conducting interviews can do that. Officers commit these offenses at a much...

I have an idea... why don't we figure out how these guys got through the screening process, and adjust accordingly. We have to keep in mind that the percentage of young guys doing this is very small. "Our servicemembers" aren't raping and pillaging locals, a few bad apples are. The question is...

I think the general distinction is curfew to your ship or unit vs curfew to your residence. Saying all hands must be onboard by 2200 for a 0900 underway the next day or have to be in the barracks by 2200 to be up for training at 0500 is different than saying all hands must be home by 2200. One...

If the USN/USMC needs him to have this school for a joint staff billet, won't they send him to it then? And won't it be considered a good deal after having been on deployments and actually having responsibility? He's gonna brain dump all that stuff when he starts flight school, anyway. I think...

This. If you do a TS/SCI application, you will be eligible for that clearance provided everything checks, but you'll still have to get 'read in' before you have any access to TS/SCI material. Wouldn't the people who run the course check up on your clearance, anyway? You could give them a call...

An LPO telling his division that if someone screws up something dumb professionally again, he's going to hold the entire division accountable can be effective at times. There's a high likelihood that the guys in the shop all work together on a regular basis and there can be a reasonable...

Every swinging Muslim dick may hate Israel for it, but the only nation they really have to fear waging war against them for it is Iran. As for the U.S. not supporting Israel if they waged total war...I'm not so sure. I think Obama would make a few speeches denouncing it publicly, but we'd...

The answer to your question is to start a weight lifting program to supplement your running, and go on a weight loss diet. 30 pushups max is not an endurance problem, it's a strength and fitness problem. Yea yea there's no weights at OCS, but weightlifting is the most efficient means to build...

So if I'm reading the chart correctly, solar, nuclear, and other alternate energy sources won't appreciably reduce our dependence on foreign oil, since those are used to generate electricity while foreign (and domestic) oil is used in industrial and transportation applications?

Criminals don't follow rules. Making more rules isn't going to compel criminals to follow them, either. Whather it's a curfew or no alcohol, the people who elect to ignore the law will continue to do so. You just make it worse for the other 99% of people who follow the rules.

100 may have been the high end for some of the nuclear divisions, but as you know duty doesn't mean just sleeping on the boat and watching movies. It means standing watch between the hours of 1800 and reveille and on weekends. I count that as doing work. On average, the actual number in an...

Is there any real data on this? I definitely don't think that my classmates at OCS consisted entirely of black sheep, fuckup children of wealthy parents as you assume they would be. As far as I know, service academies are practically as old as America herself. You'd have to go back to the...

One could also argue that SNCOs are also managers of their work centers, and that a college degree that supplements in-rate knowledge and develops problem solving approaches (e.g. Mech E for mechanics) would be equally valuable and allow them to better troubleshoot equipment issues when they...

Somewhat related but tangental topic... Why does the military pay for college education up front at all for Officers with no initial service, but not for enlisted Sailors? In today's military, it's not like Uncle Sam really needs to front this cost to find qualified applicants to commission...

CAM, I don't think anyone is advocating being nasty to retired people just because. Brett and others are saying that if a retired servicemember decides to assert the authority he used to (but now no longer) have and dress down an AD servicemember about something stupid, the AD servicemember...

What "facts?" You're just a sheeple believing all the lies fed to you by the Man :rolleyes:!

Oh I can play the slippery slope game, too... Adm [name] resigned because he got arrested for jay walking. This is an obvious character floor that is unacceptable in senior military officers. Who knows what other nefarious deeds he may have committed?

I understand the ideal of "Officer and a gentleman," but I'll never understand why someone who has proven his strategic planning skills like Patraeus would be fired (or in this case, asked to resign) for anything other than what occurs on the battlefield. Having an affair is morally wrong, but...