We all know Budweiser is where flavor country is really at.
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USN Cannabidiol (CBD) and the Navy
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I presume you have no frame of reference with smoking pot.
This is a bizarre POV. Wink, you’re out of your element, and have no idea what you’re talking about.
Murder Mountain on Netflix is an interesting docu-sires that looks at this ongoing challenge with growers in Humboldt.
exNavyOffRec
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Not sure what crowd you're referencing, but I'm talking O-3 and below here
Not everybody smokes like Spicoli...plenty of people smoke weed the way -- to your point above -- people drink alcohol who aren't trying to get "to intoxication."
The level of THC in what is being smoked is the concern, there are people that do smoke everyday and the amount of THC in their blood could lead to them getting a DUI just about anytime their blood was drawn, there have been several test done including WA where they have people smoke equivalent to one joint and they showed impairment after only half of a "joint", that was just on field test not blood draw, and I don't know if they confirmed with blood draw or not on the level in the bloodstream.
Not bizarre, but it is my own experience/POV. And what element must I be in? I went to college in 70s. I NEVER saw anyone smoke for ANY reason but to get high for funsies. Has youth nature changed so much? The people I know in their 50s and 60s partake for "medicinal" purposes of some self diagnosed problem or to get a recreational high. I have yet to meet anyone who eats edibles for the flavor of weed or smokes because they like the taste of the smoke. Argue that folks smoke to "relax" short of intoxication if you like. But as I said above, that is an effect on THC on the brain. But we can enjoy a fine wine for the taste and how it enhances a meal. Yeah, my POV. Don't hate.
The same "light buzz" that people seek when drinking a couple beers is no different than the "light buzz" people seek when smoking pot. It's the same impulse, and the same result.
Fair point. Addition becomes exponentially more difficult with alcohol/substance use/abuse.....
Not hating, just disagreeing with the destination reached by the anecdotal evidence. Nearly everybody I knew who smoked weed did so to get high (that I'm aware), but those people I knew before I was 23 (when I joined)...how many alcohol drinkers below the age of 23 were doing so because of their transcendent flavor standards achievable only by the likes of the finest brews and spirits?
The stigma demonizing anything tangentially related to THC doesn't seem to touch alcohol (unless you drive), sugar (unless you can't run a measly 1.5 miles in an hour), caffeine (.....no comment), super duper caffeine (i.e., energy drinks...no comment again), the resultant sleep deprivation from the former (but figure out your crew rest, shipmate), etc...
I'll be critical of the DoD's policy toward weed as long as the DoD remains hypocritical about substance abuse as a whole.
Also, we treat "getting high" as the ultimate sin. Is it not okay to seek to feel a little different? Being a human is traumatizing. Some people like running to feel better. Others bike, or do yoga, or drink alcohol, coffee or tea. Some smoke cigarettes or weed.
Where do you draw the line on an acceptable escape? Are you a daily coffee drinker? I drink half a pot a day. Not pumped about it, but it works. Maybe someday it'll be less.
Maybe someday it'll be none.
Maybe fuck yourself. Who cares?
Where do you draw the line on an acceptable escape? Are you a daily coffee drinker? I drink half a pot a day. Not pumped about it, but it works. Maybe someday it'll be less.
Maybe someday it'll be none.
Maybe fuck yourself. Who cares?
Spekkio
He bowls overhand.
The DOD has to follow state laws, too. No one wants to argue over where to relocate a base over a conflict with local laws and regulations.
The million dollar question here is: your sailor shows up smelling like weed. How do you objectively determine if he baked one off this morning or if it's from R&R last night?
Everything on a naval ship is trying to kill you. Operating it while intoxicated substantially increases the success rate.
All this talk about “light buzz” and “heavy buzz” and “over the sweater buzz” - geez louise guys!
I put this in Doc’s Corner for a reason. Almost all medical professionals will admit that substances are not always used for buzz alone; some of it is self-medication behavior. We in the military are required to know this as part of signs to look for with shipmates needing help (i.e. self-harm, PTSD).
You can self-medicate with THC, with Jim Beam, with Motrin, and now you can self-medicate with Martha Stewart-branded CBD hand lotion. Would companies really make it a hand lotion if they thought people were using it to get buzzed?
I put this in Doc’s Corner for a reason. Almost all medical professionals will admit that substances are not always used for buzz alone; some of it is self-medication behavior. We in the military are required to know this as part of signs to look for with shipmates needing help (i.e. self-harm, PTSD).
You can self-medicate with THC, with Jim Beam, with Motrin, and now you can self-medicate with Martha Stewart-branded CBD hand lotion. Would companies really make it a hand lotion if they thought people were using it to get buzzed?
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I think part of the equation is that there are plenty of people you don't know that use some form of cannabis for diagnosed conditions. Seizures is a big one, and a managed treatment has shown to help significantly. Not everyone who is using it is smoking or eating it just to get high.
I absolutley know people who use cannabis for legit medical reasons. Sorry if I wasn't clear, but I was responding to a post about legalization, and the Navy's policy response juxtaposed with its treatment of alcohol.
I stand by my statement. It is not critical of my position to state some folks drink to a buzz just like smoking weed. I said people use cannabis solely for an effect, to get high, a buzz, help them sleep whatever. Of course the same is true of alcohol. But, you can very much enjoy a gin and tonic or scotch and soda for the taste and avoid even a buzz. That is all I am saying. The motivation can be different.