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The fact that there are protests around the world about this says a lot.
As @wink said, it is not at all the same. Courts can’t grant injunctions absent essentially ongoing irreparable harm AND a strong likelihood that the plaintiffs will succeed on the merits. The case has to be strong enough that not only is the law likely unconstitutional, but that it likely benefits society to put the law on hold while it’s being adjudicated.Fair enough-result is the same. And unlikely to be reversed.
As @wink said, it is not at all the same. Courts can’t grant injunctions absent essentially ongoing irreparable harm AND a strong likelihood that the plaintiffs will succeed on the merits. The case has to be strong enough that not only is the law likely unconstitutional, but that it likely benefits society to put the law on hold while it’s being adjudicated.
The case has not yet been heard on the merits in any court. Yet you can fail to get an injunction but still win a case. The only thing the Supreme Court ruled on was whether to suspend the law in the interim, and that matters because not issuing an injunction does not involve creating precedent. Hearing an appeal would have.
Rioting is never OK!! How is it even a conversation??Arguing over when it is or isn't okay to riot is the wrong conversation, and is frankly irrelevant.
How do we get police to stop murdering people, and how do we get them to hold themselves more accountable so people don't want to riot is the right conversation.
+1 for the disclaimer*Posting a quote by Pat Robertson is not an endorsement of everything that Pat Robertson has ever said or done.
It doesn’t matter what Trump says. He could call for an investigation, he can say it was horrible and unacceptable, he can say peaceful protests are fine. He did say those things.https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/worl...ts-trump-for-his-protest-response/ar-BB14WzSN
More conservatives calling out POTUS for not doing enough to address the problem. "We are all one race and we need to love each other."
*Posting a quote by Pat Robertson is not an endorsement of everything that Pat Robertson has ever said or done.
Interesting anecdote (not data!) from a DC cop.Rioting is never OK!! How is it even a conversation??
We would go a hell of a long way to not having suspects, of any color, die in an encounter with police if they would simply not resist.
He is speaking as a black man who before he joined the department, or even considered applying to the academy, was a victim of police brutality.
At 22, he and his sister were driving a friend from Howard University to their grandfather’s house in Oxon Hill, Md., when they were pulled over near their grandfather’s driveway. Wilhoit says that the officer refused to tell him why they were stopped and that he later learned that the officer listed the reason as a burned-out tag light.
“I was forced out of the car, pepper-sprayed and punched in the face,” he says. “My sister was in the car crying.”
Later, when he got his driver’s license back, it was cut in half.
Wilhoit says a relative convinced him to apply to the police academy, and he did, because he wanted to work on reform from the inside. As we talk, he fights back tears twice. He describes the protests as a “humanitarian check.”
“If you don’t feel some kind of way, you need to question what’s going on with you,” he says. “People are angry and they are marching, but in reality, people are looking for reform. They are looking for change.”
They are looking for police officers who aren’t afraid to do what they believe is right — whether that is kneeling or stepping up to stop one of their own.
First, Wink, I have several close family members in LE. Conversations about the job occur very frequently at family gatherings.It was said above that the police need to learn perception is reality. Not necessary. They absolutely know that.
You are free to believe that law enforcement does not hold themselves accountable, but I suspect it is because you simply do not see what you think is an equatable body count of cops on death row.
Not to the right standards.Cops are held accountable
Could be that he's a Mod? Dunno, try ignoring another mod to see. That might be a config issue one of the admins can work.Hey mods - why can’t I ignore wink?
kinda had my fill of fascist screeds, you know
He is not a fascist, just someone you vehemently disagree with. You aren’t helping anyone conflating his opinions with actual fascists. You’re just beclowning yourself and discrediting your own stances.Hey mods - why can’t I ignore wink?
kinda had my fill of fascist screeds, you know
Hey, we'll always have the Brownies, too . . . and the Cavs, too, now that they're back in their usual spot in the basement.I really miss baseball. I never realized how dependent I had become on the Indians dashing away my hopes and dreams year after year.
I really miss baseball. I never realized how dependent I had become on the Indians dashing away my hopes and dreams year after year.