Yeah, we totally do nothing...
Your words, not mine.
Yeah, we totally do nothing...
I think it’s quaint you still believe you will actually be the one engaging OPFOR surface vessels...
It's all about strategic planning, as a force. As in, what has the (fill in the blank) community prioritized and worked towards over the years? The SURFOR is less segmented than AIRFOR. Makes funding decisions much easier to execute.
Back to my initial question though? A line USN DDG vs a line PLAN DDG; or a line USN fighter vs a line PLAN fighter? The answer is pretty clear to anyone that's been paying attention.
I’m just hoping your reading comprehension is a little better at work than on line...Your words, not mine.
Sick burn.
When was the last time the surface navy shot down a plane or sank a submarine?Yeah, it kind of was. Are you ready to cite a bunch of SEAL-support and PR successes from the MH-60S world?
You, uh, might want to phrase that a little more specifically and a little less open-ended... unless you already know the answer (1988) and that's the point you're trying to make.When was the last time the surface navy shot down a plane?
Nope, I wholeheartedly agree with your statement.Yeah, it kind of was. Are you ready to cite a bunch of SEAL-support and PR successes from the MH-60S world?
Sick burn...When was the last time the surface navy shot down a plane or sank a submarine?
When was the last time the surface navy shot down a plane or sank a submarine?
Vincennes vs Iran Comair?When was the last time the surface navy shot down a plane or sank a submarine?
I’m not trying to defend 60’s. As far as I know that’s mostly what they do. As far as I know destroyers mostly launch tomohawks and collide with other ships.We closed the AEGIS kill chain and shot down some cruise missiles last year in the Red Sea.
Our ASW capability is ever-shaping "red's" operations in many AORs today.
I maintain that the "tactical" mindset of the MH-60S community is a total joke and all they do is Starboard D, VERTREP, and PAXFER, but please, prove me wrong!
I’m not trying to defend 60’s. As far as I know that’s mostly what they do. As far as I know destroyers mostly launch tomohawks and collide with other ships.
None of that has to do with your parochialism claim. Seriously, what the hell are you trying to say?
Instead of a hint how about you say what you mean. Once again, what the fuck are you talking about?Collide with other ships? Please. Let's look at how many aviation class A's there have been in the last 10 years, compared to surface ship class A's.
With my parochialism argument - it's nothing to do with mishaps, but everything to do with how effective we are at the "high end fight."
Here's a hint - helo guys don't really have a seat at the table when we talk about the "high end fight."
I’m just hoping your reading comprehension is a little better at work than on line...
My whole point was a broad stroke at NA vs Surface Navy. You can keep focusing on the MPRA slice all you want, to dodge my larger point about the culture within our respective community. My point still stands.
Instead of a hint how about you say what you mean. Once again, what the fuck are you talking about?