Why? Does something change then?
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NEWS Navy to end ending all enlisted ratings!
- Thread starter AQ-AT-NAVCIV
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Had a meeting today with some Aviators. Everyone used rates as though nothing had changed.
Nope. Change will still happen for the sake of change. Because progress.
Credit for the change, I suppose.
We've been doing the same. I went to signal for a troubleshooter yesterday and ended up doing the YMCA dance to spell out "P.E.T.T.Y. O.F.F.I.C.E.R.". It wen't over pretty well with the boys on the line.
The Navy Crimes goes in-depth.
Edit: They also published the list of proposed "gender-neutral" ratings. Honestly, some are awkward, and I don't see the need behind what would have been, yet again, a pile of new two-letter abbreviations . . . but I could have lived with most of those.
Edit: They also published the list of proposed "gender-neutral" ratings. Honestly, some are awkward, and I don't see the need behind what would have been, yet again, a pile of new two-letter abbreviations . . . but I could have lived with most of those.
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Brett called it!
Ultimately, the decision was made by Navy Secretary Ray Mabus, whom multiple source describe as eager to announce the new policy before his impending departure after more than seven years atop the sea service.
P.S. Even Fester is mentioned...
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From the article, it sounds like Maybus opted for the throw away COA.
Edit: It also strikes me that in former MCPON Stevens' zeal to "lead this change," he neglected his most sacred duty - advocate for the service and our Sailors.
Edit: It also strikes me that in former MCPON Stevens' zeal to "lead this change," he neglected his most sacred duty - advocate for the service and our Sailors.
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I am so very fucking tired of those that have forgotten, or have never experienced, life in the fleet for the modern day Sailor.
Sorry, the Navy is only Congress, Senate, and brass that has no fucking clue, O3 and below no longer exist!
exNavyOffRec
Well-Known Member
I think after this he will be referred to as E-9 Stevens
OldNavy
Registered User
Brett called it!
Ultimately, the decision was made by Navy Secretary Ray Mabus, whom multiple source describe as eager to announce the new policy before his impending departure after more than seven years atop the sea service.
P.S. Even Fester is mentioned...
Considering some of his recent "improvements", I don't think he was so much "atop" the sea service as he was behind it.
Seen on a VFA CO's personal Facebook page: "We just decided to assign callsigns to all of our Sailors; like PR2, AM1, AE3 and so on. When they get promoted, we'll have a 'callsign review' board...."
BenDog
Active Member
I think change is inevitable, for some, it might be good. HOWEVER, Seeing as how I retired 1 Sep, I am, and will remain an Aviation Machinist Mate Chief.
The thing that got me going is the loss of the "identity" within the various old rating groups. Seabees, Aviation, etc. In addition, will this mean they can take the brown shoes away from the aviation types that will earn it after all this takes effect? It happened once back in the 80's. Just sayn......
The thing that got me going is the loss of the "identity" within the various old rating groups. Seabees, Aviation, etc. In addition, will this mean they can take the brown shoes away from the aviation types that will earn it after all this takes effect? It happened once back in the 80's. Just sayn......
Brown shoes are an optional uniform item for everyone.