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Iran Detains 10 U.S. Navy Personnel
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That's probably the purpose of the video, but they need to learn about rock music dubbing if they want to really address that problem.
Tears OTOH are authorized.
Makes you wonder if the current warming of relations with Iran has anything to do with Saudi's difficulties.
Preparing for the Collapse of the Saudi Kingdom
It can’t last. The U.S. better get ready.
http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2016/02/saudi-arabia-collapse/463212/
Preparing for the Collapse of the Saudi Kingdom
It can’t last. The U.S. better get ready.
http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2016/02/saudi-arabia-collapse/463212/
Hmm, an interesting read. And there's apparently been some interesting regime changes happening within their military. That said, while we may be warming up to Iran, we're also allowing the Saudis to buy our stuff...and they've been eager.
They're on cruise . . . where you're probably not getting laid anyway, and cheesy mustaches are highly encouraged.
The Arnheiter Affair investigation didn't take this long…we ever going to get a report from the Navy? Maybe I missed something.
I would imagine that such a report would never be released into the public domain...
FOIA is a wonderful thing…especially when the incident made international headlines.
Looks like CTF-56 is getting relieved over this whole affair.
Quote from the article, though . . .
Quote from the article, though . . .
WTFO?? First, how the F is there confusion about who the SOPA is when there are two boats, and maybe 1-2 commissioned officers in the formation? Lineal numbers are not rocket science. And how is the helmsman "refusing an order" now "confusion," and not a violation of UCMJ Article 90?
This article is extraordinary! It just shows the impact on bad leadership and how corrosive it is. How could there not be a clear chain of command on and U.S. Navy seagoing vessel? Where were the grown-ups? Heck, where were the commissioned officers who are in command? And if said enlisted helmsman did refuse an order I hope they throw his ass in Leavenworth for many many years . Enlisted people refusing orders is a toxic virus that cannot even happen once.
that helmsman should have been relieved, physically restrained.
that helmsman should have been relieved, physically restrained.
Yeah, that seriously pissed me off.
There's zero confusion if they were IAW SOP:
One Patrol Officer (only commissioned O) is in charge of the whole patrol.
Each boat has its own boat captain (E-6/7), but the boats fall under the patrol's chain of command.
Coxswains work for their boat captains.
The ONLY good reason I can think of for the coxswain to refuse an order to "evade" is if the PO ordered him to leave the boat and crew with the propulsion casualty behind. And that opens up an even worse problem that I'd hope would never happen.
The general sloppiness in all respects with this unit really gets me bent out of shape. You don't give cool toys to untrained personnel expecting good results.
