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Youtube--Primary Flight Training at Whiting

tk628

Electronic Attack Savant
pilot
As long as this turned into who spinned what how, Bunk when you get the T-6, if you spin it to the right, there some problem with the oil system where the motor starts eating itself....or at least that's what P&W told the AF to tell us, when they kept getting chip lights at VAFB 2 years ago
 

Gatordev

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It just spins a bit quicker to the right, tends to push you more to the right in the cockpit, more uncomfortable. I always introduced studs to spins to the left.

I never really noticed a difference on regular spins. I know aerodynamically it's different, I just didn't feel it. Now progressive spins...yeah. Especially when the plane was bent/rigged "right" and that thing snapped into the progressive. "Wheeeee....okay, can we stop now?"

Regardless, nice video. I miss flying that plane.
 

bunk22

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I never really noticed a difference on regular spins. I know aerodynamically it's different, I just didn't feel it. Now progressive spins...yeah. Especially when the plane was bent/rigged "right" and that thing snapped into the progressive. "Wheeeee....okay, can we stop now?"

Regardless, nice video. I miss flying that plane.

Oh yeah, the Progressive. Might be my 225lbs vs your 105lb :icon_wink as in the right spins, I'm thrown to the right while to the left, nothing.
 

kmac

Coffee Drinker
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I'm about to launch. I'll time the spin on each direction. I just hope I don't get sick with this POS air conditioner.
 

scoolbubba

Brett327 gargles ballsacks
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It's funny in that when I was a stud, I remember thinking..spins, what's the big deal? Even in advanced with T-2's, I don't remember much of anything being that difficult. Now, knowing what I know, I only thought that because I didn't know shit :)

One of my last IP flights I made the mistake of trusting a stud in a C4586. He had completed PA's and needed a warm-up and the only aero he wanted to do was barrel rolls and wingovers. So I thought, well, he completed the C4500 block so it should be easy. We start the barrel roll, I hang back, he pulls the nose up but doesn't roll. I keep telling him, you need to start rolling....thus the term roll in the manuever barrel roll. At 70 degress nose up, out of airspeed, I thought this is going to be interesting. I let it go out of morbid curiousity but as we all know, the T-34 recovers very easily from just about any OCF regime. Rudder shakers, buffet as he finally rolls, out of airspeed but the nose actually falls through, straight down. He pulls 4 g's at the bottom. Funny that he quietly says to me that wasn't very good, was it? I told him I didn't know what that manuever was, it wasn't a barrel roll but it might have been great for whatever it was. Point is, even when you or they think they know what they are doing, they don't :)

I think I patented something like that at Vance...I called it a barrel Scoop. It never really finished the roll, and somewhere upside down pulling and rolling with all my might we'd end up 90 degrees off course heading rapidly toward wichita.
 

Gatordev

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I think I patented something like that at Vance...I called it a barrel Scoop. It never really finished the roll, and somewhere upside down pulling and rolling with all my might we'd end up 90 degrees off course heading rapidly toward wichita.

There's actually a maneuver that does that, but you do it 4 times. It's the first half of a barrell roll and then the second half of the split-S. I think it's the Clover Leaf, and it's an AF PA maneuver.
 

torpedo0126

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There's actually a maneuver that does that, but you do it 4 times. It's the first half of a barrell roll and then the second half of the split-S. I think it's the Clover Leaf, and it's an AF PA maneuver.

yes, the clover leaf is essentially 4 loops in a row but you roll into the next one to make the 'leaf' appearance.

I didn't know it was specific to here though.
 

Pags

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Pretty well done vid. I had completely forgotten that there was a reason to fly higher than 1000' AGL.
 

bunk22

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I think I patented something like that at Vance...I called it a barrel Scoop. It never really finished the roll, and somewhere upside down pulling and rolling with all my might we'd end up 90 degrees off course heading rapidly toward wichita.

Sweet :D
 

kmac

Coffee Drinker
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Ok so I can't tell the difference between left and right spins. Either way the stud entered at 9.3 and recovered by 7.3. Maybe it's just this plane.
 

Gatordev

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Ok so I can't tell the difference between left and right spins. Either way the stud entered at 9.3 and recovered by 7.3. Maybe it's just this plane.

That was another favorite... Trying to do a progressive but the plane is bent (and not MAF'ed) and you just sit there watching the altimeter wind down wondering if it's ever going to pop. "Hmm, well, guess you'll see that on your next flight."
 

BACONATOR

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Oh Jesus.. You're doing checkrides now kmac?

Glad I got out when I did!

Not such a quantum leap, dude. I remember my one flight with Kmac....


"Seriously Otto, you need to un-FUCK your pattern, like 2 passes ago"

"Good call on getting that landing checklist in on time, but our gear is still up..."

"Do you even know WHERE the AOA indicator is located? WTF are you even looking at??"

Something along those lines.... :D:D
 
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